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Re: RD and CW broken?

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:19 pm
by Penril
Me too.

Seriously, people should find proof before claiming some things as facts. It is getting old.

Re: RD and CW broken?

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:20 pm
by Tesq
Arena wrote:
Penril wrote:
Arena wrote:I just want to remind all of you, that Resolute Defence was in the game since it release.
No it wasn't.

http://warhammer.gamepressure.com/war_r ... lities.asp
As i recall there was "after 60 rr" (or 70, can't remember that accurate) additional 6 things, one of which was Resolute Defence.
So RD was before whole RR point tree rework. And only after it there appear cleansing wind, 10 seconds of 0 AP costing, 10 seconds of immortality, critical damage decrease and other familiar now things.
new renown system got introduced in 1.3.8 before the rvr rewamp in 1.4.0; there where no renown skill before that just renown tactics. (which got obblitarated after 1.3.8 and replaced with those jokes you got when you rr 90-100).

Re: RD and CW broken?

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:23 pm
by wargrimnir
I'm glad people are shaking all the salt out of their system early. Saves me from having to do any in-depth explanation for why.

Re: RD and CW broken?

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:23 pm
by Penril
http://www.arksark.org/blog/1309/warham ... e-changes/

Resolute Defense was introduced in 1.3.0b.

* Resolute Defense: This new ability is now available for purchase from Renown trainers. When activated, your character will become briefly immune to all Crowd Control effects. Please note that this ability will not remove any pre-existing effects; it is a tool to help you prevent yourself from becoming afflicted in the first place!

Re: RD and CW broken?

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:29 pm
by Arena
CegeePegee wrote:No sir, it appears that it was added as part of the 1.3 patch sometime in the summer of 2009. If you can find some proof that it was in the game from day 1 i would love to see it.
It might be true, i sure that RD was in the game before RR points was reworked.
Anyway i don't know how i'm gonna make trough this hell without RD, if there was something unbearable in this game, for me it is knockdowns, they are make too big impact in any battle in compare with anything else, and resolute defence was one and only salvation. Can't figure out how somebody can possibly consider to delete it from the game, especially most of developers in the team. Maybe 2nd and 3rd steps of it, maybe. But whole thing? Unthinkable.
You could delete cleansing wind, 10 sec of free of AP abilities, 10 sec of immortality, i can understand, can see why it could be needed. But Resolute Defence? Just out of the blue. Is it because of whining newbs who can't catch kotbs by whole wb? Is that it?

Re: RD and CW broken?

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:31 pm
by Penril
Arena wrote: You could delete cleansing wind, 10 sec of free of AP abilities, 10 sec of immortality, i can understand, can see why it could be needed. But Resolute Defence? Just out of the blue. Is it because of whining newbs who can't catch kotbs by whole wb? Is that it?
No, we just wanted to annoy a certain whining newb.

Re: RD and CW broken?

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:34 pm
by Sulorie
When you need RD to survive on a regular basis, then you either need to work on your gameplay or teamwork.

Re: RD and CW broken?

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:35 pm
by Atropik
Sulorie wrote:When you need RD to survive on a regular basis, then you either need to work on your gameplay or teamwork.
Sound intresting

Re: RD and CW broken?

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:36 pm
by Arena
Penril wrote: No, we just wanted to annoy a certain whining newb.
nice answer on behalf of the team.
Is it became in common thing, that anyone who try to change your mind or not agree with your decisions is by definition a whining person?

Re: RD and CW broken?

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:36 pm
by bobbydobby
Im laughing when prople say this helps melee out. No...it doesnt. If you want to remove the ability thats fine...but to do it without explanation then tell the community to stop whining when they are upset about it is just wrong.

So basically what yourw saying is if you want to play mdps you must have perfect group setup. The only counter you had to close the gap against rdps is gone.

I dont see how a choppa is supposed to consistently do well without rd. Depend on others to carry you is the answer i guess.