Return of Reckoning

Thaodan wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:37 pm

diegomess wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:37 pm .......... now that 13 points abilities of class are changing for the better can we look at Rending blade for chosen? the most underwhelming 13pnt ability of any tank? a plain low dmg boring aoe that should be core anyways......

Skeletor will return with more chad tips.

Similar also the mirror ability for the KotBS. The ability does ok damage with enough targets but since it's a physical damage ability it is much easier to reduce the impact of the damage. Also it can be blocked/parried compared to the mirror ability which can't be defended against.

You forget to say that Kotbs mirror ability staggering impact removes 10% defences to everybody for your realm and its 30ft while rending blade is just a plain undefendable low dmg aoe with low cd and 25ft and nothing more...

Chosen now can remove 10% defences but to one target only and a tactic is needed.

and if u were talking about arching swing which is more similar to rending blade a 13pt ability then hell... kobs swing is a core low cd ability that removes wounds and with a tactic gives 10% crit to your entire realm similar to BG 13pt ability.

you could argue that chosen can combine corruptive power tactic with rending blade to be more effective but also needs the crit tactic because you need to crit ppl to activate it and in the end you dont need an aoe for that also its in the mid tree which is the snb tree, so what you need 2 tactics to make an ability "useful"?.... and guess what kobs have always had this tactic "dirty tricks" which you just need to stand still and block and will give it to your entire party while chosen needs to go close in 2h and land a crit.

zulnam wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:18 am My god the patches have been crazy for RoR lately!

BG went from the destro tank you get just to fill the ranks to a must-have.

Also i kind of expected more thread pages seeing Rampage finally changed. I mean there's probably 13 pages just of threads on the subject matter, not even counting posts.

there was a 1 in a million chance of getting it right in the pocket and somehow they managed
it no longer punishes guard so brutally by pressing 1 button but also the change doesn't really effect slayer in most practical scenarios
credit where credit is due

Dackjanielz wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:33 pm

bw10 wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:25 pm Rampage got buffed and its funny how many people cant see it

Can you please explain how this is?
i'm not mocking i'm genuinely curious, i don't see the benefits.

I personally liked losing the rage because it kept me alive which is what you want in trollslayer build especially, and i don't see why having no GCD really changes anything its still a 30s cooldown?

with rampage on slayer has about 30% strikethrough (40% in 2h build) which is more than enough to nullify mdps/rdps/healer defences to 0. no gcd is huge because it lets you put another ID / aoe during rampage. no rage drop is huge for dps in rvr. so yeah outside of keep door funnels id say rampage was buffed.

bw10 wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 10:39 pm

Dackjanielz wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:33 pm

bw10 wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:25 pm Rampage got buffed and its funny how many people cant see it

Can you please explain how this is?
i'm not mocking i'm genuinely curious, i don't see the benefits.

I personally liked losing the rage because it kept me alive which is what you want in trollslayer build especially, and i don't see why having no GCD really changes anything its still a 30s cooldown?

with rampage on slayer has about 30% strikethrough (40% in 2h build) which is more than enough to nullify mdps/rdps/healer defences to 0. no gcd is huge because it lets you put another ID / aoe during rampage. no rage drop is huge for dps in rvr. so yeah outside of keep door funnels id say rampage was buffed.

Thanks you

diegomess wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:44 pm

You forget to say that Kotbs mirror ability staggering impact removes 10% defences to everybody for your realm and its 30ft while rending blade is just a plain undefendable low dmg aoe with low cd and 25ft and nothing more...


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Dosent BG get similar ability that removes defences AoE but for 0 mastery points?

Ruin wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:00 pm

diegomess wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:44 pm

You forget to say that Kotbs mirror ability staggering impact removes 10% defences to everybody for your realm and its 30ft while rending blade is just a plain undefendable low dmg aoe with low cd and 25ft and nothing more...

Dosent BG get similar ability that removes defences AoE but for 0 mastery points?
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Yes it's called Furios Howl.

I feel like the snb tanks are in such a good position right now, tbh.

BG was hands down the least wanted tank in warbands. Now it has the cooldown remover group buff; YUUUUGE.

The change to the BO/SM mid-tree ability to make it more useful might also see possibilities of new play styles in the future, as warbands experiment. Fingers crossed.

IB is maybe a bit behind, since auto-attack for group would only benefit dps and only melee at that; but IB has been a group AP battery for some time now which is a very strong group utility to have (and a personal slayer/WL buff butler; buffler?).

Knight and SM also got more group utility; which lets be fair they didn't even need; they hog group utility like crazy, but who's gonna say no to that?

Thank god chosen still has the auras cause UFFF.

Thaodan wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 6:46 am

Ruin wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:00 pm

diegomess wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:44 pm

You forget to say that Kotbs mirror ability staggering impact removes 10% defences to everybody for your realm and its 30ft while rending blade is just a plain undefendable low dmg aoe with low cd and 25ft and nothing more...

Dosent BG get similar ability that removes defences AoE but for 0 mastery points?

Yes it's called Furios Howl.
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BG one only removes parry and block tho, while the others i mentioned all defences meaning + dodge and disrupt

zulnam wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 7:46 am Thank god chosen still has the auras cause UFFF.

snb chosen is feeling a little dumpy, i don't see why mid and right 13 couldn't have better uptime now

diegomess wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:05 am

Thaodan wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 6:46 am

Ruin wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:00 pm

You forget to say that Kotbs mirror ability staggering impact removes 10% defences to everybody for your realm and its 30ft while rending blade is just a plain undefendable low dmg aoe with low cd and 25ft and nothing more...

Dosent BG get similar ability that removes defences AoE but for 0 mastery points?

Yes it's called Furios Howl.

BG one only removes parry and block tho, while the others i mentioned all defences meaning + dodge and disrupt


Thats why it dosen't require mastery points