Return of Reckoning

horrigan wrote:Hi
Guys so many news here buhahahhaha. Go this path and yu lost players. Beastshit - new class make from desi cry. No RD no CW renown skills.
Damn SH-SW jumpingback with no panish. Dots brak stealth, dismount any tick. And we working more to make crying looser as big hero.
Hycel

Natherul wrote:in regards to SH and their pets also getting the same debuff to pets:
It was the original plan, but squigs dont scale as WL pets do, they are not AOE immune as WL pets are. As such they are excluded for now, but it might change, especially once SH get more tweaks in the future (the work that has gone into WLs by Torque is extensive to say the least)

Does it mean that the SH pet will ne immune to AOE ?

Ceithin wrote:

Natherul wrote:in regards to SH and their pets also getting the same debuff to pets:
It was the original plan, but squigs dont scale as WL pets do, they are not AOE immune as WL pets are. As such they are excluded for now, but it might change, especially once SH get more tweaks in the future (the work that has gone into WLs by Torque is extensive to say the least)

Does it mean that the SH pet will ne immune to AOE ?

Not saying anything on that since they have not had a proper pass yet, and this is a question for Torque in the end, but you likely wont get an answer to that now

What warranted the White Lion pet damage nerf? Shouldn't solo players with bad positioning be viable targets for a WL pet, given that in any non-pug environment a WL pet will never kill an enemy on its own?

I think maybe keep wall change is fair enough, that could be considered a bug/exploiting on the WL part. But attacking someone at the head of a wb from distance, thats seems valid. Or what if someone gets away from you, say a gobbo, the pet chasing them down is now no longer considered valid?

I can't see how WL pet doing max damage at any range was an issue in any environment outside of pug encounters.

Hmm.. how does this impact WL pet damage on oil?

dansari wrote:Hmm.. how does this impact WL pet damage on oil?

It will decrease, and to be fair, in a perfect world where LOS check works for everything, sending a pet up there should not work at all.

peterthepan3 wrote:But attacking someone at the head of a wb from distance, thats seems valid.

Last time I checked, WL was a Mdps, not a Rdps. So no, attacking someone from distance and doing more than decent damage is not what I would call "valid" for an already deadly Mdps class.

Interesting change for WL's. On one hand it is incredibly annoying to get chased by pets that do full damage (especially when there is more than one), but I also see peterpan's point. Maybe a debuff that decreases wl pet damage incrementally if the player does not attack the same target? short duration, etc.

Haojin wrote:

horrigan wrote:Hi
Guys so many news here buhahahhaha. Go this path and yu lost players. Beastshit - new class make from desi cry. No RD no CW renown skills.
Damn SH-SW jumpingback with no panish. Dots brak stealth, dismount any tick. And we working more to make crying looser as big hero.
Hycel

Spoiler:

Nice selfie dude

ppl askibg SH pet be immune to AOE? Why it a range class which means player never HAS to be in melee range with several different squig role so NO it SHOULD not be immune as WL pet who has to be in melee / danger close to be effective. That would open the door to squig Armor with pet and melee squig to exploit as players on this server usually do.

And changes to WL pet AFTER making changes to A spec for the pet is asanine.