Return of Reckoning

Feomatar wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 6:44 pm

Sulorie wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 6:38 pm Who dies by 3 backstabs of wh/we? You Feomatar?

100% ignoring armor on backstab while u can use ability what makes your fronstabs backstabs, and cc and stealth, and ripost and confusing movements and repel blasphemy and OH I WANT BE USEFULL IN 24\24 hmmm. Seems u want 70% of server we\wh if u think this need to be buffed.

Someone is itchy he was solo-killed. Prob playing a two button spam class.
WH damage 1vs1 is on par with virtually every other DPS out there. But 80% of them have good AoE dmg so they get chosen first for WB's, get guard and are focused healed. WH's have no group utility either and that makes them the second to last class to pick for a WB only before SW's. Virtually no one is playing WH's seriously in end-game.

And I have to read that a buff is not needed and that we should be nerfed? Please go away.

Melkoroth wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 7:27 pm

Feomatar wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 6:44 pm

Sulorie wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 6:38 pm Who dies by 3 backstabs of wh/we? You Feomatar?

100% ignoring armor on backstab while u can use ability what makes your fronstabs backstabs, and cc and stealth, and ripost and confusing movements and repel blasphemy and OH I WANT BE USEFULL IN 24\24 hmmm. Seems u want 70% of server we\wh if u think this need to be buffed.

Someone is itchy he was solo-killed. Prob playing a two button spam class.
WH damage 1vs1 is on par with virtually every other DPS out there. But 80% of them have good AoE dmg so they get chosen first for WB's, get guard and are focused healed. WH's have no group utility either and that makes them the second to last class to pick for a WB only before SW's. Virtually no one is playing WH's seriously in end-game.

And I have to read that a buff is not needed and that we should be nerfed? Please go away.

Who have 100% armor ignore without cd on pair of 2 stealth abilities and dots what make 50% of hp alone? endgame is 24\24 and u play best 1v1 hm, so u want to play best both 1v1 and 24v24 class? Imagine world where we\wh still best 1v1 class with braindead tactics "hue i p[ress backstab in stealth then i press stun and 2 more backs i use to be good that i did this kill hueee" are viable in 24\24. Imagine? So tell me for what exists other mdps's? To be ganked by braindead **** u play and makes u feel's good?
Literally watch the video, he will do 0 of his kills if he play something like sw like this - idiot literally press buttons with his mouse and oneshot everything, he literally kills slayer in his FACE what is just hilarious that stealther kills pure melee fighter without in his face - without kiting, backstabing etc. U play easiest (after dps shama) **** for lilcocks braindead players and want it be viable in endgame? So nice, if it will be viable in city's this game needs to change of "age of stealthstabbing and backpedaller mouthclicking"
U want cheat code in 1v1 - u got cheat code in 1v1, but if cheats will be allowed without nerfing in end game - it will be server of cheaters. Simple as that.

I can guess why you got banned in the first place and you hardly learned from it.

When you can't survive solo in rvr, don't play solo. Both classes are not the top of the food-chain for solo roamers and being able to kill other solo players doesn't make a class OP.

I don't vote for buffs either, now you are probably confused.

Sulorie wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 7:49 pm I can guess why you got banned in the first place and you hardly learned from it.

When you can't survive solo in rvr, don't play solo. Both classes are not the top of the food-chain for solo roamers and being able to kill other solo players doesn't make a class OP.

I don't vote for buffs either, now you are probably confused.

1. I have allergic reaction to idiotic opinions.
2. Being able to kill anything in 1v1 makes it op in 1v1, and if op in 1v1 will be viable in 24\24 - this called broken, ok? Once more, what reson to play something else if something op in 1v1, extremely easy to play and viable in endgame?
3. No i'm not, you are just shittalker.
4. And all will be solved if we and wh just lost their 100% arp and have only 50% but share their selfbuffs to group, but players who want to own by face-rolling doesnt want balanced class, they want to face roll instead, and cant get, that this is the reason why devs dont want make it viable in endgame cause pick one - 1v1 faceroll or being viable in city.

Feomatar wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 8:06 pm

4. And all will be solved if we and wh just lost their 100% arp and have only 50% but share their selfbuffs to group, but players who want to own by face-rolling doesnt want balanced class, they want to face roll instead, and cant get, that this is the reason why devs dont want make it viable in endgame cause pick one - 1v1 faceroll or being viable in city.

Don't turn your back to them and the armor ignore is gone. When they have buff up, kite them.

No matter the armor ignore, other dd make either similar dmg or have other bonus. With high enough armor penetration it won't matter anyway. Get your wounds high enough to survive kd, detaunt and pot and start your counterplay.
Your talk sounds too much like solo player to take it serious, the game balance is about groups. So play in one.

Sulorie wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 8:36 pm

Feomatar wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 8:06 pm

4. And all will be solved if we and wh just lost their 100% arp and have only 50% but share their selfbuffs to group, but players who want to own by face-rolling doesnt want balanced class, they want to face roll instead, and cant get, that this is the reason why devs dont want make it viable in endgame cause pick one - 1v1 faceroll or being viable in city.

Don't turn your back to them and the armor ignore is gone. When they have buff up, kite them.

No matter the armor ignore, other dd make either similar dmg or have other bonus. With high enough armor penetration it won't matter anyway. Get your wounds high enough to survive kd, detaunt and pot and start your counterplay.
Your talk sounds too much like solo player to take it serious, the game balance is about groups. So play in one.

Dont turn your back when they stun you from stealth and when they use their backstabonface ability. GENIOUS, u must have more 50 iq (and less 80).
game is about groups, but powermanagment is NOT, whant your class be viable in groups - make it not op in 1v1, simple as that.

Feomatar wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 9:00 pm
Dont turn your back when they stun you from stealth and when they use their backstabonface ability. GENIOUS, u must have more 50 iq (and less 80).
game is about groups, but powermanagment is NOT, whant your class be viable in groups - make it not op in 1v1, simple as that.

The WE/WH ambushes you from stealth, ask your healer to heal you and tank swap guard or CC. There is no 1vs1 balance, so your whole statement is meaningless.
When you want to roam solo in rvr, be prepared to get attacked and learn to defend yourself. This video has little value, as it's just a kill compilation. Something you can do on any class.

Sulorie wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 9:39 pm

Feomatar wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 9:00 pm
Dont turn your back when they stun you from stealth and when they use their backstabonface ability. GENIOUS, u must have more 50 iq (and less 80).
game is about groups, but powermanagment is NOT, whant your class be viable in groups - make it not op in 1v1, simple as that.

The WE/WH ambushes you from stealth, ask your healer to heal you and tank swap guard or CC. There is no 1vs1 balance, so your whole statement is meaningless.
When you want to roam solo in rvr, be prepared to get attacked and learn to defend yourself. This video has little value, as it's just a kill compilation. Something you can do on any class.

So what the problem to make we\wh viable in city and NOT be broken in 1v1? Cause u want feel good by pressing 2 buttons mindlessly and be able to kill anyone? Just take away 100% arp on backstab, make it 50% and make selfbuffs of we\wh on party buffs, and all be great, this **** will needs to press 4 buttons instead of 2 tow in anyone, and dont use their cd like idiots, and its will be useful in city and even more useful in 6v6. Oooh, but that will give chances to someone to fight back to we\wh, and they will need to use brain for a little instead of binding in nerfed buttons to 1 stealth and vanish and in 2 stun and backstab with nothing else, i get it, its will be offence to retarded we\wh players... Yes, i'm wrong, its to cruel!

Feomatar wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 8:06 pm

Sulorie wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 7:49 pm I can guess why you got banned in the first place and you hardly learned from it.

When you can't survive solo in rvr, don't play solo. Both classes are not the top of the food-chain for solo roamers and being able to kill other solo players doesn't make a class OP.

I don't vote for buffs either, now you are probably confused.

2. Being able to kill anything in 1v1 makes it op in 1v1, and if op in 1v1 will be viable in 24\24 - this called broken, ok?

White Lions are very strong in 1v1 and 24v24, but some reason you didn't mention them.

Stelios123 wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 9:59 pm

Feomatar wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 8:06 pm

Sulorie wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 7:49 pm I can guess why you got banned in the first place and you hardly learned from it.

When you can't survive solo in rvr, don't play solo. Both classes are not the top of the food-chain for solo roamers and being able to kill other solo players doesn't make a class OP.

I don't vote for buffs either, now you are probably confused.

2. Being able to kill anything in 1v1 makes it op in 1v1, and if op in 1v1 will be viable in 24\24 - this called broken, ok?

White Lions are very strong in 1v1 and 24v24, but some reason you didn't mention them.

WL is the best mdps in the game YES, so? But they are NOT broken in any of their strength side's. They maybe needs even nerfs, like their aoe spec is almost broken.
But wh and especially we is 100% (200% for we) broken in 1v1, and if they will be just viable in city - u will see 70% of server population in stealth. U cannot blindly buff something what broken in any aspect of the game b4 u balance it. For example if u make them usefull for wb's in most in my opinion easy way - make bullets\kisses (with some twiks) shared to party without taking their brokenness in 1v1 - next day all wb's will be like 4 tanks, 4 healers, 2 aoe sh, 4 aoe mages and 14 we and ALL solo roamers are we. Imagine in current 1v1 state viable we\wh\s? Its annihilation squad, and clown fiesta where u die b4 u can press anything.
I tell u once more - its forst idea ever to make something viable endgame what broken is some of game aspect - its will be catastrophe to game balance, broken things cannot be viable, thats why irl no one use use nuclear weapon in war, and this is really sad that u doesnt realize it.
One more time - want your class viable in 24\24 - u must give up their brokenness in 1v1, or sooner or later everyone else give up on their classes or game. Chose one - viability in city or 1v1 cheat code.