Return of Reckoning

3Form wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:34 pm Ancancar, you run a very defensive setup on your squig herder right? I remember, you couldn't outdamage the single +64 regen shoulders on my swordmaster and had to constantly disengage. So I'm not sure how you're expecting to kill snb IB?

Same goes for the fleshrender chosen player a page or two back.

When you build deftard (to win 1v1s through pure attrition) this is the result. You do great against stragglers that are set up for warband play, but someone eventually comes along with a build you can't beat, that does what you are doing but much better.

I think it's pretty simple, Gilgam says it already, to beat a regen build you need to outdamage the regen. And you're never going to do that if you built regen yourself.

I'm not a very experienced solo roamer, I've mostly done 2-3 man, with barely 100 solo kills. But my offensive 2h SM, whose only regen piece is +64 on shoulders, has given Badchosen his only solo death this year... https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/37390652 Because with magic damage their armour doesn't matter and with high ST dps (800-900 on altdorf dummy) you can overcome the regen.

I killed a couple other fleshrenders: chosens, maras. It has taken between 25k-35k kill damage to take them down. And like Gilgam also says, I've had a harder time against Chosens that don't run regen. Wiggsplitter's weaponskill setup (now defunct I guess) just destroyed me, and I lost one out of two to Bibiloi/Goodunion not long ago too.

So I think it's pretty silly that "deftard" players complain they cannot kill another defensively specced player. I mean it's literally the point of these builds, you are just getting a taste of your own medicine. And Gilgam seems to have really nailed his setup with crazy survivability but enough offence to deal with regen players. But there has been more than enough comments in this thread to make him feel great already =)

3Form wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:34 pm Ancancar, you run a very defensive setup on your squig herder right? I remember, you couldn't outdamage the single +64 regen shoulders on my swordmaster and had to constantly disengage. So I'm not sure how you're expecting to kill snb IB?

Same goes for the fleshrender chosen player a page or two back.

When you build deftard (to win 1v1s through pure attrition) this is the result. You do great against stragglers that are set up for warband play, but someone eventually comes along with a build you can't beat, that does what you are doing but much better.

I think it's pretty simple, Gilgam says it already, to beat a regen build you need to outdamage the regen. And you're never going to do that if you built regen yourself.

I'm not a very experienced solo roamer, I've mostly done 2-3 man, with barely 100 solo kills. But my offensive 2h SM, whose only regen piece is +64 on shoulders, has given Badchosen his only solo death this year... https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/37390652 Because with magic damage their armour doesn't matter and with high ST dps (800-900 on altdorf dummy) you can overcome the regen.

I killed a couple other fleshrenders: chosens, maras. It has taken between 25k-35k kill damage to take them down. And like Gilgam also says, I've had a harder time against Chosens that don't run regen. Wiggsplitter's weaponskill setup (now defunct I guess) just destroyed me, and I lost one out of two to Bibiloi/Goodunion not long ago too.

So I think it's pretty silly that "deftard" players complain they cannot kill another defensively specced player. I mean it's literally the point of these builds, you are just getting a taste of your own medicine. And Gilgam seems to have really nailed his setup with crazy survivability but enough offence to deal with regen players. But there has been more than enough comments in this thread to make him feel great already =)

jafh123 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:03 pm

3Form wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:34 pm Ancancar, you run a very defensive setup on your squig herder right? I remember, you couldn't outdamage the single +64 regen shoulders on my swordmaster and had to constantly disengage. So I'm not sure how you're expecting to kill snb IB?

Same goes for the fleshrender chosen player a page or two back.

When you build deftard (to win 1v1s through pure attrition) this is the result. You do great against stragglers that are set up for warband play, but someone eventually comes along with a build you can't beat, that does what you are doing but much better.

I think it's pretty simple, Gilgam says it already, to beat a regen build you need to outdamage the regen. And you're never going to do that if you built regen yourself.

I'm not a very experienced solo roamer, I've mostly done 2-3 man, with barely 100 solo kills. But my offensive 2h SM, whose only regen piece is +64 on shoulders, has given Badchosen his only solo death this year... https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/37390652 Because with magic damage their armour doesn't matter and with high ST dps (800-900 on altdorf dummy) you can overcome the regen.

I killed a couple other fleshrenders: chosens, maras. It has taken between 25k-35k kill damage to take them down. And like Gilgam also says, I've had a harder time against Chosens that don't run regen. Wiggsplitter's weaponskill setup (now defunct I guess) just destroyed me, and I lost one out of two to Bibiloi/Goodunion not long ago too.

So I think it's pretty silly that "deftard" players complain they cannot kill another defensively specced player. I mean it's literally the point of these builds, you are just getting a taste of your own medicine. And Gilgam seems to have really nailed his setup with crazy survivability but enough offence to deal with regen players. But there has been more than enough comments in this thread to make him feel great already =)

Wiggsplitter does run regen and stacks reduce arpen (which is really good to counter IB), Bibiloi doesn't. They both have good damage, I used to always have Wiggsplitter on the run (in fact I have a solo kill on him because he jumped off the wrong cliff escaping from me ), lowering his health easily, but he made some changes and is now really strong, both defensively and offensively; Bibiloi, on the other hand, dies really fast for a chosen (I have solo killed him like 60+ times).

mazi761111 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:07 pm

3Form wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:34 pm Ancancar, you run a very defensive setup on your squig herder right? I remember, you couldn't outdamage the single +64 regen shoulders on my swordmaster and had to constantly disengage. So I'm not sure how you're expecting to kill snb IB?

Same goes for the fleshrender chosen player a page or two back.

When you build deftard (to win 1v1s through pure attrition) this is the result. You do great against stragglers that are set up for warband play, but someone eventually comes along with a build you can't beat, that does what you are doing but much better.

I think it's pretty simple, Gilgam says it already, to beat a regen build you need to outdamage the regen. And you're never going to do that if you built regen yourself.

I'm not a very experienced solo roamer, I've mostly done 2-3 man, with barely 100 solo kills. But my offensive 2h SM, whose only regen piece is +64 on shoulders, has given Badchosen his only solo death this year... https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/37390652 Because with magic damage their armour doesn't matter and with high ST dps (800-900 on altdorf dummy) you can overcome the regen.

I killed a couple other fleshrenders: chosens, maras. It has taken between 25k-35k kill damage to take them down. And like Gilgam also says, I've had a harder time against Chosens that don't run regen. Wiggsplitter's weaponskill setup (now defunct I guess) just destroyed me, and I lost one out of two to Bibiloi/Goodunion not long ago too.

So I think it's pretty silly that "deftard" players complain they cannot kill another defensively specced player. I mean it's literally the point of these builds, you are just getting a taste of your own medicine. And Gilgam seems to have really nailed his setup with crazy survivability but enough offence to deal with regen players. But there has been more than enough comments in this thread to make him feel great already =)

that is you??haaha that time i use galsscanon...full dps..400toug no parry no fs..if i use aprry build sm no chanc win.

hogun wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:18 pm Gilgam,
nvidia capture your video
But if you want to make a montage, there are plenty of very simple ones available; Google is your friend!

jafh123 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:36 pm

hogun wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:18 pm Gilgam,
nvidia capture your video
But if you want to make a montage, there are plenty of very simple ones available; Google is your friend!

I played for a bit over an hour and recorded it all with nvidia shadowplay. Got 5 solo kills, although no challenging fights. I will try to cut the garbage out and I can send you the video if you want, or do you want to see more kills?

Maybe I can fight mdpn again if he wants to and record it.

reynor007 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:44 pm

jafh123 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:36 pm

hogun wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:18 pm Gilgam,
nvidia capture your video
But if you want to make a montage, there are plenty of very simple ones available; Google is your friend!

I played for a bit over an hour and recorded it all with nvidia shadowplay. Got 5 solo kills, although no challenging fights. I will try to cut the garbage out and I can send you the video if you want, or do you want to see more kills?

Maybe I can fight mdpn again if he wants to and record it.

the only class that used to kill tanks easily (def we) no longer deals damage to tanks

maybe if I play for a few weeks on WE and make the right build, I can win about 3/10 of the fights, but this is not certain and unfortunately I have absolutely no desire to return to the game at the moment
I think we can have a fight if I find myself a def magus or chosen

jafh123 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:59 pm

reynor007 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:44 pm

jafh123 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:36 pm

I played for a bit over an hour and recorded it all with nvidia shadowplay. Got 5 solo kills, although no challenging fights. I will try to cut the garbage out and I can send you the video if you want, or do you want to see more kills?

Maybe I can fight mdpn again if he wants to and record it.

the only class that used to kill tanks easily (def we) no longer deals damage to tanks

maybe if I play for a few weeks on WE and make the right build, I can win about 3/10 of the fights, but this is not certain and unfortunately I have absolutely no desire to return to the game at the moment
I think we can have a fight if I find myself a def magus or chosen

You can ask daewuur for his defense magus, you don't need to do anything, only detaunt and /laugh.

jafh123 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:59 pm

reynor007 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:44 pm

jafh123 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:36 pm

I played for a bit over an hour and recorded it all with nvidia shadowplay. Got 5 solo kills, although no challenging fights. I will try to cut the garbage out and I can send you the video if you want, or do you want to see more kills?

Maybe I can fight mdpn again if he wants to and record it.

the only class that used to kill tanks easily (def we) no longer deals damage to tanks

maybe if I play for a few weeks on WE and make the right build, I can win about 3/10 of the fights, but this is not certain and unfortunately I have absolutely no desire to return to the game at the moment
I think we can have a fight if I find myself a def magus or chosen

You can ask daewuur for his defense magus, you don't need to do anything, only detaunt and /laugh.