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Re: [IB] Tankiest tank?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:57 am
by Wdova
kmark101 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:14 pm
Skullgrin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:45 pm
From my (biased) 1v1 perspective, Ironbreakers are the most difficult to deal with. Swordmasters I just have to out-DPS and time my heals and interrupts right, Knights take time to kill but their defenses can be slowly picked apart with sever blessing and the M1 armor reduction. You can pick Ironbreakers apart the same way, but they always seem to start healing back up when their health hits about 33% and then you're right back you where you started, and the fight just goes on and on. Longest solo fight I've ever had (think it was about 15-20 minutes) was with an Ironbreaker...
IB's are easy food for Chosens. Their self heal can be debuffed to 250/tic, while it is eating their grudge (so their damage will be lower for the period of the self heal ticks). On the other hand, IB's can't scratch a high armor Chosen due to all their skills are physical damage type and you just shrug them off. Your Dreadful Agony aura, Touch of Palsy, etc.. alone can kill an IB in a long enough fight because it's spirit damage and IB has only corporeal resistance.
IB's are easy food for Chosens:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfSFpbfIkKY
Re: [IB] Tankiest tank?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:14 am
by Dammy095
kmark101 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:27 pm
my noob knight in ruin gear is a much more survivable character with much higher toughness than my fully decked out rr70 IB in best gear, with Vigilance tactic almost unkillable for 10 secs even for armor piercing classes, has all capped resists with a single aura 24/7, and so on. And then the sweetest Runefang...)
In a warband environment, where only shield + challenge + hold the line matters it's even more noticable how fast an IB frontline collapses compared to knights (due to lack of Vigilance-like skill).
it shows OPness of knights, not weakness of IBs, compared to kobts any tank in game less tankier, all of them do more damage tho
Re: [IB] Tankiest tank?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:00 pm
by kmark101
Dammy095 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:14 am
it shows OPness of knights, not weakness of IBs, compared to kobts any tank in game less tankier, all of them do more damage tho
Again, the question was if "IB is tankier". The answer is no.
Re: [IB] Tankiest tank?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:50 pm
by Tesq
Dammy095 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:14 am
kmark101 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:27 pm
my noob knight in ruin gear is a much more survivable character with much higher toughness than my fully decked out rr70 IB in best gear, with Vigilance tactic almost unkillable for 10 secs even for armor piercing classes, has all capped resists with a single aura 24/7, and so on. And then the sweetest Runefang...)
In a warband environment, where only shield + challenge + hold the line matters it's even more noticable how fast an IB frontline collapses compared to knights (due to lack of Vigilance-like skill).
it shows OPness of knights, not weakness of IBs, compared to kobts any tank in game less tankier, all of them do more damage tho
Like kobs skill vigilance is 50% for 10 sec 30 sec CD , you have for IB a 15% dmg reduction passive qith no CD.....
both classes have a medium of 15% dmg reduction for every 10 sec of CD.
They have the same dmg reduction over 30 sec and kobs vigilance can even be shatter....
The one that should cry here is chosen with a medium of 7,5%......
Re: [IB] Tankiest tank?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:50 am
by tazdingo
vigilance can also be severed
it's too hard to say who the tankiest tank is. are you taking a lot of guard dmg? are you getting sudden focused from the back? are you trying to defend a chokepoint? it's a different class for each one. i think what we can all agree on is it definitely isn't SM