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Re: Rework sava/brut Mara.

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:58 am
by larsulu
normanis wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:08 am https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnfdDronlTg&t=302s
khm seems u need learn from this mara how to play.
p.s there was thread in forum where mara said he whant 2k crit on wrecking ballz. have question maby u whant also rend soul and mabe self cleanse + armor enchantment like bw? why not ask more whear heavy armor also,
byt now serious mara is top dps class what suit for any purpose solo , grp . wb. and this is team game if u whant only 1v1 fights why u dont go to apocalypse (its vanilla) and u will get your wounds debuff in 7 points. at moment ror is zerg favorite and clases who suit wb rocking ( mara rock n roll anyway because he is most/best class out there) vs wl or asw who is single target and than minor aoe . wl cant fit what slayer can do and asw cant do what bw/engi can doo.
I’m talking about sava/brut not monstro spec.
This video doesn’t means anything, is a def monstro Mara specced for only 1v1.
My proposal is a bit more global then 1v1 game.
Read carefully my first topic please.
Wrecking ball crit 2k? Is a Channeling, easy to counter.
Also if wrecking ball can hit 2k is means the enemy running with green gear tbh.

Re: Rework sava/brut Mara.

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:33 am
by larsulu
Likeaboss wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:43 am
larsulu wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:22 pm
Before judging ppl for whining be sure to have a good knowledge of ror classes, then we can talk.
Really? bringing up a Rework thread on Mara, and gonna tell other people they need to have a good knowledge of RoR classes :lol:
Made my day.

Marauder is the completest class in RoR, with strong single damage with huge debuffs, with an insane AoE spec,
just saying "Monstro proc"

I'd say it is overpowered, BUT some people will remeber, (not me i have no good knowledge, even if i play since 2008)
that Marauder wasnt always like that, he was more a debuffer char for about 2 years...
no crit tactic and not that burst he has today... So Marauder had his downsides, thats fair for me, no need to nerf 8-)

But then you come along and wanna buff it just because you get nothing done with it :lol:
It is like opening a thread about the lack of mobility by White Lion :D
Yes I know Mara is pretty good as single dmg and aoe wb spec but there no reason to keeps Tb/ds nerfed like this .
You know how’s work monstro proc ? I guess not

Re: Rework sava/brut Mara.

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:46 am
by Likeaboss
"Nerfed like this" ? Oke i understand, they reduced the wounds debuff on the hardest hitting debuff the Marauder have. how rude... shame on you DEV's :lol:

And yes i know how monstro proc works... do you? the shred of the armor pen of any enemie is hardcore...
(unless you get focused by BW :lol: ) and 1032 heal over 5s, i'd take that too :D

sometimes i get frustrated to, therefor i got a tipp ;)
when you are mad about Marauder, read the patchnotes about WL nerf, ktobs/SW crit tactics nerf, and then you see, it could be worse :lol:

Re: Rework sava/brut Mara.

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:30 am
by larsulu
Likeaboss wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:46 am "Nerfed like this" ? Oke i understand, they reduced the wounds debuff on the hardest hitting debuff the Marauder have. how rude... shame on you DEV's :lol:

And yes i know how monstro proc works... do you? the shred of the armor pen of any enemie is hardcore...
(unless you get focused by BW :lol: ) and 1032 heal over 5s, i'd take that too :D

sometimes i get frustrated to, therefor i got a tipp ;)
when you are mad about Marauder, read the patchnotes about WL nerf, ktobs/SW crit tactics nerf, and then you see, it could be worse :lol:
You know melee dps/ tanks can counter monstro proc ?

Re: Rework sava/brut Mara.

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:06 pm
by wachlarz
Hello all

WL build:
https://officialrorbuilder.herokuapp.co ... mm=&mt=&t=]RoR.builders - White Lion

Mara build:
https://officialrorbuilder.herokuapp.co ... mm=&mt=&t=]RoR.builders - Marauder

Are almost identical. U have armor debuff/dmg buff/healdebuff/cull the weak = guillotine. But if i wanna use guillotine or other brut skills must switch to brutality. If i have tac scythe tallons that give +160 ws/ini and i switch to brut i lose this tac so i get +10% to be crit. If i use a tac Fedding on Fear and its proc i get next +10% to be crit. So if i switch to brut and am unlucky i have +20% to be crit from 2 tac :/ Ofc this one gives bonus +20% to crit so ok.
I suggest tac scythe tallons work on sav and brut or at least 10 sec buff to ini when switched from sav to brut.

Re: Rework sava/brut Mara.

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:24 pm
by TenTonHammer
Scything talons or any of those other 2 5 point tactics are nonrelevant once you hit 40 as they are never slotted as there are bigger better tactics to run

Maras low initiative is a non issue once you get more rr ranks and higher tier jewelry like genesis

Re: Rework sava/brut Mara.

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:30 pm
by Ketamine
You allways want crit dmg tactic lol.
Just swap draining swipe for crit dmg.
And higher rr its easy af to build ini and crit reduction on mara.
300+ ini ez.
You allways want the same 3 tactics imo and then 4th tactic you have the option between Flanking, Brute Force or bigger HD.
But you allways want crit, crit dmg and armor ignore.
If you are gonna use the ini tactics, your nerfing your self.

Re: Rework sava/brut Mara.

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:00 pm
by wachlarz
TenTonHammer wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:24 pm Scything talons or any of those other 2 5 point tactics are nonrelevant once you hit 40 as they are never slotted as there are bigger better tactics to run

Maras low initiative is a non issue once you get more rr ranks and higher tier jewelry like genesis
Rly how much rr spend to have 0% to be crit ? What item U have so U have izi 300+ ini or its only bla bla talk ? Genesis set for monstr only give crit red and 5 pic and i dont think any sav/brut use it.

Re: Rework sava/brut Mara.

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:46 pm
by TenTonHammer
wachlarz wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:00 pm
TenTonHammer wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:24 pm Scything talons or any of those other 2 5 point tactics are nonrelevant once you hit 40 as they are never slotted as there are bigger better tactics to run

Maras low initiative is a non issue once you get more rr ranks and higher tier jewelry like genesis
Rly how much rr spend to have 0% to be crit ? What item U have so U have izi 300+ ini or its only bla bla talk ? Genesis set for monstr only give crit red and 5 pic and i dont think any sav/brut use it.

https://www.returnofreckoning.com/armor ... me=Udoroth#

Sometime I swap out remnant of the warrior for remnant of the undying for +24 tough and iniqtive

I have 2 lvls of FS spent in renown along with max deft defender and parry along with 3 lvls of str, I already have 992 str unpotted with BF

So yeah

All 3 of those tactics are pointless after you stand by that statement

And good Mara is always swapping between stances, debuffing in sav then swapping to brut to dps or monstro to AoE a tactic that “encourages” you to stay in one stance is bad

Re: Rework sava/brut Mara.

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:55 pm
by wachlarz
TenTonHammer wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:46 pm
wachlarz wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:00 pm
TenTonHammer wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:24 pm Scything talons or any of those other 2 5 point tactics are nonrelevant once you hit 40 as they are never slotted as there are bigger better tactics to run

Maras low initiative is a non issue once you get more rr ranks and higher tier jewelry like genesis
Rly how much rr spend to have 0% to be crit ? What item U have so U have izi 300+ ini or its only bla bla talk ? Genesis set for monstr only give crit red and 5 pic and i dont think any sav/brut use it.

https://www.returnofreckoning.com/armor ... me=Udoroth#

Sometime I swap out remnant of the warrior for remnant of the undying for +24 tough and iniqtive

I have 2 lvls of FS spent in renown along with max deft defender and parry along with 3 lvls of str, I already have 992 str unpotted with BF

So yeah

All 3 of those tactics are pointless after you stand by that statement

And good Mara is always swapping between stances, debuffing in sav then swapping to brut to dps or monstro to AoE a tactic that “encourages” you to stay in one stance is bad
I think U dont have 200 ini so... and nice u have 992 but how much u have % to be crit. I talk about ini NOT a str.