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Re: Is Parry on Guard damage working?
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:03 pm
by Esperflame
I noticed it in a city as well. I watched my 75% parry IB fail to parry so hard. Something is up.
Update: Something has been broken on guard dmg vs parry. I cannot guard anyone anymore without it killing me flat out all the time now and looking at my combat logs I'm parrying only like 5% of my guard dmg hits. Devs need to take a serious look at this.
Re: Is Parry on Guard damage working?
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:50 pm
by Acidic
Esperflame wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:03 pm
I noticed it in a city as well. I watched my 75% parry IB fail to parry so hard. Something is up.
Update: Something has been broken on guard dmg vs parry. I cannot guard anyone anymore without it killing me flat out all the time now and looking at my combat logs I'm parrying only like 5% of my guard dmg hits. Devs need to take a serious look at this.
Actually I think players need to take it seriously and bug track it with evidence.
I tried to reproduce failed.
If we can BT it with evidence then we can poke kaelang to try push its priority, till it’s reproducable/ understood it’s not so much a dev can do
Re: Is Parry on Guard damage working?
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:26 pm
by witc0m
Esperflame wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:03 pm
I noticed it in a city as well. I watched my 75% parry IB fail to parry so hard. Something is up.
Update: Something has been broken on guard dmg vs parry. I cannot guard anyone anymore without it killing me flat out all the time now and looking at my combat logs I'm parrying only like 5% of my guard dmg hits. Devs need to take a serious look at this.
Seeing that it's replicable (I can replicate it every time), I'm going to submit a bugtracker for it as another member suggested.
When I don't guard anyone as a 2H Ironbreaker I can survive okay-ish. When I do guard someone, my guard damage alone absolutely melts me...
Re: Is Parry on Guard damage working?
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:59 pm
by Tenhi
What kinda attacks are you guarding there? with the damage so low it looks like a Slayers Reckless Gamble? Can Reckless Gamble damage be parried?Oo
Re: Is Parry on Guard damage working?
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:02 pm
by Zxul
Tenhi wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:59 pm
What kinda attacks are you guarding there? with the damage so low it looks like a Slayers Reckless Gamble? Can Reckless Gamble damage be parried?Oo
Heh comes to think of it yep- attacks from Rampaging slayer can't be parried, so guard dmg from Reckless Gamble or whatever that slayer is hitting the guarded target with can't be parried as well- working as intended if that's the case.
Re: Is Parry on Guard damage working?
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:05 pm
by Drozen
doubt anything is borked tbh, in all fairness i could claim guard dmg is 100% parry"able"... But im not that stupid so i wont.
I just gott lucky here in that screen & you gott unlucky (& also over estimeted your parry it seems ontop of it), avoidens was & more then likely still is capped at 75%. (There is alot of other factors that can effect your avoidens as a tank so keep that in mind in pvp)
Just gett a big enough samplesize and have 75% actuall parry and i would bett your parry on guard (& normal dmg) would be on 75% if no other factors are involved.
And yes Guard dmg is a B***H & it can wreck you for sure, so learn to play around it.
Re: Is Parry on Guard damage working?
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:28 pm
by wachlarz
Drozen wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:05 pm
doubt anything is borked tbh, in all fairness i could claim guard dmg is 100% parry"able"... But im not that stupid so i wont.
I just gott lucky here in that screen & you gott unlucky (& also over estimeted your parry it seems ontop of it), avoidens was & more then likely still is capped at 75%. (There is alot of other factors that can effect your avoidens as a tank so keep that in mind in pvp)
Just gett a big enough samplesize and have 75% actuall parry and i would bett your parry on guard (& normal dmg) would be on 75% if no other factors are involved.
And yes Guard dmg is a B***H & it can wreck you for sure, so learn to play around it.
I think parry a guard dmg its constant and only 20% or 25%. From this screen its something weird
No point too use a shield for block
Wargrimir will fix it soon
Re: Is Parry on Guard damage working?
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:58 pm
by Manatikik
wachlarz wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:28 pm
Drozen wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:05 pm
doubt anything is borked tbh, in all fairness i could claim guard dmg is 100% parry"able"... But im not that stupid so i wont.
I just gott lucky here in that screen & you gott unlucky (& also over estimeted your parry it seems ontop of it), avoidens was & more then likely still is capped at 75%. (There is alot of other factors that can effect your avoidens as a tank so keep that in mind in pvp)
Just gett a big enough samplesize and have 75% actuall parry and i would bett your parry on guard (& normal dmg) would be on 75% if no other factors are involved.
And yes Guard dmg is a B***H & it can wreck you for sure, so learn to play around it.
I think parry a guard dmg its constant and only 20% or 25%. From this screen its something weird
No point too use a shield for block
Wargrimir will fix it soon
Ok, can you stop spreading this weird misinformation? BASE guard parry rate is 25% due to the attack having 1 STR vs your WS. It is capped at 75%.
Re: Is Parry on Guard damage working?
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:34 am
by wachlarz
Manatikik wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:58 pm
wachlarz wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:28 pm
Drozen wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:05 pm
doubt anything is borked tbh, in all fairness i could claim guard dmg is 100% parry"able"... But im not that stupid so i wont.
I just gott lucky here in that screen & you gott unlucky (& also over estimeted your parry it seems ontop of it), avoidens was & more then likely still is capped at 75%. (There is alot of other factors that can effect your avoidens as a tank so keep that in mind in pvp)
Just gett a big enough samplesize and have 75% actuall parry and i would bett your parry on guard (& normal dmg) would be on 75% if no other factors are involved.
And yes Guard dmg is a B***H & it can wreck you for sure, so learn to play around it.
I think parry a guard dmg its constant and only 20% or 25%. From this screen its something weird
No point too use a shield for block
Wargrimir will fix it soon
Ok, can you stop spreading this weird misinformation? BASE guard parry rate is 25% due to the attack having 1 STR vs your WS. It is capped at 75%.
So now tanks dont need a shield ?
Re: Is Parry on Guard damage working?
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:52 am
by Nekkma
wachlarz wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:34 am
So now tanks dont need a shield ?
To parry guard damage, no. For a bunch of other useful things, yes.