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Re: Ranked 3 Season Stats for All Classes
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:37 pm
by knick
Bozzax wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:14 pm
knick wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:47 pm
if we cherry picking and make fantasy interpretation for the ranking we can have any result we want.
top 10 dd´s - 0 order DD´s but 5 destro (100%)
top 30 are 15 dd´s - 9 destro (or 60%) 6 order
top 45 are 19 dd´s - 11 destro (or 57 %) 8 order
top 60 are 24 dd´s - 14 destro (or 58 %) 10 order
top 10 player - 8 destro (or 80%) 2 order
top 15 player - 11 destro (or 73%) 4 order
top 30 player - 20 destro (or 66%) 10 order
top 45 player - 28 destro (or 62%) 17 order
top 50 - 31 destro (or 62%) player 19 order
top 100 - 56 destro (or 56%) 44 order
>than 1000 points 128 player - 67 destro 61 order
>than 1300 points 83 player - 48 destro 35 order
>than 1500 points 44 player - 27 destro 17 order
>than 1700 points 25 player - 17 destro (68%) 8 order
>than 1800 points 15 player - 11 destro (73%) 4 order
and so on
Winrate in large datasets are far superior to your shitlist since mmr is a magic number that polutes all meaningful conclusions
sure the fact that a cross-section win rate of all player of a class taking the best and worst player into one number is more meaningful than the actual ranking clearly showing a peak into destro. But because its not fitting into your point of view and destro pride mind its automatically a "shitlist". good argumentation
If we would follow your argumentation best DD must be BW with 53% winrate please nerf!
The truth is somewhere between all this numbers but definitive not just winrates
Re: Ranked 3 Season Stats for All Classes
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:13 pm
by sogeou
KissShot wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:41 am
Provided on the ROR Ranked Discord server by Dalen. Don't shoot the messenger, or do.
Top 3 DPS in order of win rate, all matches: WL, Slayer, Magus (lol), maybe WP if some of them played DPS
Top 3 DPS in order of win rate, players with >20 matches: BW, WL, Magus
Worst DPS (clearly): WH, Choppa, and likely DPS shaman/DPS AM . If not them, then Engi.
Takeaways: WL still broke af while WH and Choppa cry
Does this mean you are coming back and streaming again? There are lots of funny moments when you stream. You should go back to it.
Re: Ranked 3 Season Stats for All Classes
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:21 pm
by Aethilmar
Lies, damned lies and statistics.
Also is this group ranked, solo ranked or all ranked combined?
Would also love to see a breakdown of group comps and win rate.
P.S. I will do said breakdown if I can get the data.
Re: Ranked 3 Season Stats for All Classes
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:26 pm
by Secrets
Well at least I know that WL being OP wasn't my fault for a change.
Re: Ranked 3 Season Stats for All Classes
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:29 pm
by Bozzax
knick wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:37 pm
Bozzax wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:14 pm
knick wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:47 pm
if we cherry picking and make fantasy interpretation for the ranking we can have any result we want.
top 10 dd´s - 0 order DD´s but 5 destro (100%)
top 30 are 15 dd´s - 9 destro (or 60%) 6 order
top 45 are 19 dd´s - 11 destro (or 57 %) 8 order
top 60 are 24 dd´s - 14 destro (or 58 %) 10 order
top 10 player - 8 destro (or 80%) 2 order
top 15 player - 11 destro (or 73%) 4 order
top 30 player - 20 destro (or 66%) 10 order
top 45 player - 28 destro (or 62%) 17 order
top 50 - 31 destro (or 62%) player 19 order
top 100 - 56 destro (or 56%) 44 order
>than 1000 points 128 player - 67 destro 61 order
>than 1300 points 83 player - 48 destro 35 order
>than 1500 points 44 player - 27 destro 17 order
>than 1700 points 25 player - 17 destro (68%) 8 order
>than 1800 points 15 player - 11 destro (73%) 4 order
and so on
Winrate in large datasets are far superior to your shitlist since mmr is a magic number that polutes all meaningful conclusions
sure the fact that a cross-section win rate of all player of a class taking the best and worst player into one number is more meaningful than the actual ranking clearly showing a peak into destro. But because its not fitting into your point of view and destro pride mind its automatically a "shitlist". good argumentation
If we would follow your argumentation best DD must be BW with 53% winrate please nerf!
The truth is somewhere between all this numbers but definitive not just winrates
Wrong -BW is a small dataset and BW (RDPS) are picked differently then mdps
MMR correlates a lot with grind ie same MMR can be reached by playing 2-3 x more with low winrate
Looking at top or bottom selections is bad in itself when you talk about ”on average” observations. You would normally disregared them
Another problem is grouping of dps builds with healing builds ie dshmy/hshmy as one entry
No MMR sorting conclusions is missleading.
Re: Ranked 3 Season Stats for All Classes
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:42 pm
by KissShot
sogeou wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:13 pm
Does this mean you are coming back and streaming again? There are lots of funny moments when you stream. You should go back to it.
I've been streaming for a few weeks now. Rank is pretty good. Trolling people on the forums and in general still warms my heart the most though
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Re: Ranked 3 Season Stats for All Classes
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:41 am
by nocturnalguest
Bozzax wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:29 pm
MMR correlates a lot with grind ie same MMR can be reached by playing 2-3 x more with low winrate
Its true in theory but wrong on practice. There are only few people on few classes with enormous amount of games with 1k+ mmr. Also most of 1k+ players are with positive winrate, huge part of them is around 60%