Return of Reckoning

Saddest part of this is people quitting while their side is winning the scenario. Eight of twelve people are jumping into to fight a double premade and are getting farmed so they vote to surrender.

But four real players are playing the scenario and taking objectives, and WINNING! But those eight bums who think fighting is the only way ... surrender.

GET RID OF SURRENDER COMPLETELY!

SC surrender is fine - serves its purpose and very well implemented - the alternative is people would just afk till the end or leave.

Morradin wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 6:40 pm Saddest part of this is people quitting while their side is winning the scenario. Eight of twelve people are jumping into to fight a double premade and are getting farmed so they vote to surrender.

But four real players are playing the scenario and taking objectives, and WINNING! But those eight bums who think fighting is the only way ... surrender.

GET RID OF SURRENDER COMPLETELY!

The whole difference between "winning" and "losing" sc is a few warcrests and a laughable amount of RR at the end of sc. If you are willing to be a punchbag for a low probability of getting a few more warcrests/"winning" sc - it's your choice.

Morradin wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 6:40 pm Saddest part of this is people quitting while their side is winning the scenario. Eight of twelve people are jumping into to fight a double premade and are getting farmed so they vote to surrender.

But four real players are playing the scenario and taking objectives, and WINNING! But those eight bums who think fighting is the only way ... surrender.

GET RID OF SURRENDER COMPLETELY!

if those 8 people werent playing cannon fodder then you wouldnt have space to circlejerk flags on scenarios that let you do so.

if i am getting farmed i type .surr simple as. dont like? vote no

As it currently stands if you surrender you don't get a reward anyway afaik.

Scottx125 wrote: ↑Mon May 22, 2023 11:03 am As it currently stands if you surrender you don't get a reward anyway afaik.

Do you think that this bonus warcrest plug is worthy of few minutes of being afk/training dummy?

this will not be how you will solve the premade vs pug problem

As it stands if devs remove surrender option ppl will just stop queuing.
With all obstacles that we got at ror like barriers, hardly any guards, no contribution from guards kills and such I will stop queu.
And I like sc alot, basically done 1-100 on live by mainly scens but here I dont see any fun at being spawn camped (on live punting enemy on guards was very satisfying gameplay when camped)

Everdin wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 8:58 am

Skullgrin wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 7:38 am Simplest solution would be to give the quitter debuff to anyone that votes yes. Problem solved.

Then surrender would be obsolet because you could Just leave

Which is the way it should be! Surrender was a system put in place to solve a nonexistent problem and should be scrapped altogether. If you don't like the way a scenario is going then by all means, get out. But it doesn't give you the right to force me to leave as well...