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Re: How come Zealot damage is so miserable?
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:44 pm
by Detangler
Fey wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:03 am
They have crap damage because they have an aoe armor debuff, and aoe heal debuff. Both quite good in warband play. Wait, what?
We regret the error in our reporting
Aoe Heal Debuff was removed years ago. Where have you been?
Re: How come Zealot damage is so miserable?
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:32 pm
by zulnam
Detangler wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:44 pm
Fey wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:03 am
They have crap damage because they have an aoe armor debuff, and aoe heal debuff. Both quite good in warband play. Wait, what?
We regret the error in our reporting
Aoe Heal Debuff was removed years ago. Where have you been?
I mean, they still have it technically... as a 15-point Morale 4 in the Dark Rites mastery. Which might as well mean it doesn't exist.
Zealot/RP dps specs have needed love for a long time. Happy to see more noise done for them as opposed to the usual contenders when it comes to class balance.
Re: How come Zealot damage is so miserable?
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 7:48 pm
by Fey
It's a joke. I've been here all along.
Re: How come Zealot damage is so miserable?
Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 5:10 am
by Fey
Detangler is that Van Damme in, Hard Target? The perm mullet is magnificent. Also it looks like he has a mole on his face.
He dodges a crossbow bolt in that movie, it's awesome.
Re: How come Zealot damage is so miserable?
Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:03 pm
by Detangler
Fey wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2023 5:10 am
Detangler is that Van Damme in, Hard Target? The perm mullet is magnificent. Also it looks like he has a mole on his face.
He dodges a crossbow bolt in that movie, it's awesome.
That is a 100% factually correct post right there.
Re: How come Zealot damage is so miserable?
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:10 am
by Fatpig
Detangler wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 6:54 pm
With how harbinger can be turned on and off, zealot buffs is balancing on a knife edge honestly. Too little damage and its not worth it. Buff too much and zealot/RP could be a monster worse than the DPS sham/AM that plagues scenarios. Right now at least with this mechanic you can put out some ok assist damage numbers while in 100% heal spec.
Zealot has it worse off than RP, though. Rune of Battle's fire and forget makes it far easier to use than a channeled AoE. More useful tactics that change how you want to play a class - armor, snare and knockback cooldown, etc. Most zealot tactics are either useless, have large drawbacks, or barely add anything to make them worthwhile (as previously stated by others).
If anything, what should be changed is to increase damage coefficient numbers for damage abilities for Zealot/RP where more intelligence gives more damage. Right now I could go full glass cannon mixing sets with Divine Fury so I neuter healing all for a Scourge attack that maybe crits for 800 on a low resist/low toughness target. In healing spec, it would be like 3-400. Its just not worth investing points into.
Rune of battle, with efficient rune tactic, stuck on a tank in the zerg will keep him alive (whilst popping respectable fluff damage numbers)