Return of Reckoning

Irrelevant wrote:Well, I guess that's the bug which is causing the problem.

Wouldn't call it a bug and i dont see it being a problem, other skills do similar or more damage per second.
Its the fact shamans/Am's can heal and dps effectively, again shamans/Am's were always the best class for T1 and when class mechanics, block, resist rating etc is sorted things should work out fine

If shamans/AM's keep saying that they are not out of control, when things will get fixed and other classes' abilities work as they should (snares, interrupts, resistances etc) they will just have so many after them that they will be forced to quit playing their class.

To your post Morfee. Give me a list of skills doing similar or more damage from range. Be specific.

They do not heal just "effectively". You will understand the difference after fixes no worries.

And no they were not always the best choice. DoK/WP, sorc/BW, SH/SW are some examples. Have you ever played those classes in t1? And you say shaman/AM is the best choice. I have seen twinks of the classes above (and some tanks tbh) but shaman/AM twinks were soooo rare. Why? They are not the best choice. ONLY NOW they are because they are totally broken.

Accept it. The kills you get are irrelevant to your "skills" in this game.

Alvanos wrote:If shamans/AM's keep saying that they are not out of control, when things will get fixed and other classes' abilities work as they should (snares, interrupts, resistances etc) they will just have so many after them that they will be forced to quit playing their class.

To your post Morfee. Give me a list of skills doing similar or more damage from range. Be specific.

They do not heal just "effectively". You will understand the difference after fixes no worries.

And no they were not always the best choice. DoK/WP, sorc/BW, SH/SW are some examples. Have you ever played those classes in t1? And you say shaman/AM is the best choice. I have seen twinks of the classes above (and some tanks tbh) but shaman/AM twinks were soooo rare. Why? They are not the best choice. ONLY NOW they are because they are totally broken.

Accept it. The kills you get are irrelevant to your "skills" in this game.

I Forgot to add that intel/will are not effecting damage and heal numbers, this has a huge say in things.

On your points listed i know my black orc hits for 160 odd with a skill that has no cooldown which is only 32 less then bunch of waaagh, ive encountered wh's that hit for upwards of 200 per hit which is spammable, a certain rp was spamming aoe which appeared to have no cooldown far out dps'ing anything else and bw's doing far more damage (some of which are aoe) then what a shaman or am can do, im not complaining its just the way it is right now.
I will say again this isnt a bug and its not out of control, yes its a bit much but just wait until class mechanics,block, resists etc work then see. Its not a 1 hit win button i struggle to kill decent players.
On what was best in T1 i didnt really play in T1 i played in t4 so mayb u have more knowledge then me but any class that can heal and dps well and due to lower stat caps, damage scaling and other things in t1 healers that can dps and heal with no downside are going be referred to as OP.

Mayb the kills i get are irrelevant to my "skill" level but no more then yours or anyone else with so few combat mechanics working right now.
Roll back a year or so and i remember your "skill" level or lack of

Morf wrote:

Alvanos wrote:If shamans/AM's keep saying that they are not out of control, when things will get fixed and other classes' abilities work as they should (snares, interrupts, resistances etc) they will just have so many after them that they will be forced to quit playing their class.

To your post Morfee. Give me a list of skills doing similar or more damage from range. Be specific.

They do not heal just "effectively". You will understand the difference after fixes no worries.

And no they were not always the best choice. DoK/WP, sorc/BW, SH/SW are some examples. Have you ever played those classes in t1? And you say shaman/AM is the best choice. I have seen twinks of the classes above (and some tanks tbh) but shaman/AM twinks were soooo rare. Why? They are not the best choice. ONLY NOW they are because they are totally broken.

Accept it. The kills you get are irrelevant to your "skills" in this game.

I Forgot to add that intel/will are not effecting damage and heal numbers, this has a huge say in things.

On your points listed i know my black orc hits for 160 odd with a skill that has no cooldown which is only 32 less then bunch of waaagh, ive encountered wh's that hit for upwards of 200 per hit which is spammable, a certain rp was spamming aoe which appeared to have no cooldown far out dps'ing anything else and bw's doing far more damage (some of which are aoe) then what a shaman or am can do, im not complaining its just the way it is right now.
I will say again this isnt a bug and its not out of control, yes its a bit much but just wait until class mechanics,block, resists etc work then see. Its not a 1 hit win button i struggle to kill decent players.
On what was best in T1 i didnt really play in T1 i played in t4 so mayb u have more knowledge then me but any class that can heal and dps well and due to lower stat caps, damage scaling and other things in t1 healers that can dps and heal with no downside are going be referred to as OP.

Mayb the kills i get are irrelevant to my "skill" level but no more then yours or anyone else with so few combat mechanics working right now.
Roll back a year or so and i remember your "skill" level or lack of

All skills you said are melee or some useless aoe. I asked a ranged channelled skill that deals such damage. Ram\nged is op atm because it ignores obstacles. Melee is hard because there are no snares. AoE's...I will not comment on it.

You say you have no knowledge in t1 but just in the post above you claimed shaman/AM were always the best choices. Oh you played in t4?? WOW MAN HOW IS IT LIKE??? I have never been there myself!! Do BO's have NPC's?? How is level cap?? 35?? Oh please tell me because I could not get further than t2...I was scared when I saw many abilities I could not press all these buttons OMG so many things to press!! Well...you are ridiculous.

No if I play melee WL/KotBS and I cannot snare, and I get a kill then yeah damn it is skill based because my main tools are missing and they are not broken in a way to be OP like yours. Auras off, pet off, stances off...and you tell me that when you use 2 abilities, 2 RANGED abilities that hit twice as hard is the same. Proof that shaman players nowadays are lacking common sense. You try to make things look different than they are but you fail, since obvious garbage is obvious.

Sorry my friend I am here to point something obvious, not flatter anyone. If you like the truth you are ok, if not, you will just get zerged and lol spammed when dead.

Also I have not played for more than 2 years, so I do not even remember you and maybe we have never faced each other. But I promise you this will happen when they fix all abilities.

Alvanos wrote:

Morf wrote:

Alvanos wrote:If shamans/AM's keep saying that they are not out of control, when things will get fixed and other classes' abilities work as they should (snares, interrupts, resistances etc) they will just have so many after them that they will be forced to quit playing their class.

To your post Morfee. Give me a list of skills doing similar or more damage from range. Be specific.

They do not heal just "effectively". You will understand the difference after fixes no worries.

And no they were not always the best choice. DoK/WP, sorc/BW, SH/SW are some examples. Have you ever played those classes in t1? And you say shaman/AM is the best choice. I have seen twinks of the classes above (and some tanks tbh) but shaman/AM twinks were soooo rare. Why? They are not the best choice. ONLY NOW they are because they are totally broken.

Accept it. The kills you get are irrelevant to your "skills" in this game.

I Forgot to add that intel/will are not effecting damage and heal numbers, this has a huge say in things.

On your points listed i know my black orc hits for 160 odd with a skill that has no cooldown which is only 32 less then bunch of waaagh, ive encountered wh's that hit for upwards of 200 per hit which is spammable, a certain rp was spamming aoe which appeared to have no cooldown far out dps'ing anything else and bw's doing far more damage (some of which are aoe) then what a shaman or am can do, im not complaining its just the way it is right now.
I will say again this isnt a bug and its not out of control, yes its a bit much but just wait until class mechanics,block, resists etc work then see. Its not a 1 hit win button i struggle to kill decent players.
On what was best in T1 i didnt really play in T1 i played in t4 so mayb u have more knowledge then me but any class that can heal and dps well and due to lower stat caps, damage scaling and other things in t1 healers that can dps and heal with no downside are going be referred to as OP.

Mayb the kills i get are irrelevant to my "skill" level but no more then yours or anyone else with so few combat mechanics working right now.
Roll back a year or so and i remember your "skill" level or lack of

All skills you said are melee or some useless aoe. I asked a ranged channelled skill that deals such damage. Ram\nged is op atm because it ignores obstacles. Melee is hard because there are no snares. AoE's...I will not comment on it.

You say you have no knowledge in t1 but just in the post above you claimed shaman/AM were always the best choices. Oh you played in t4?? WOW MAN HOW IS IT LIKE??? I have never been there myself!! Do BO's have NPC's?? How is level cap?? 35?? Oh please tell me because I could not get further than t2...I was scared when I saw many abilities I could not press all these buttons OMG so many things to press!! Well...you are ridiculous.

No if I play melee WL/KotBS and I cannot snare, and I get a kill then yeah damn it is skill based because my main tools are missing and they are not broken in a way to be OP like yours. Auras off, pet off, stances off...and you tell me that when you use 2 abilities, 2 RANGED abilities that hit twice as hard is the same. Proof that shaman players nowadays are lacking common sense. You try to make things look different than they are but you fail, since obvious garbage is obvious.

Sorry my friend I am here to point something obvious, not flatter anyone. If you like the truth you are ok, if not, you will just get zerged and lol spammed when dead.

Also I have not played for more than 2 years, so I do not even remember you and maybe we have never faced each other. But I promise you this will happen when they fix all abilities.

Morf wrote:Wouldn't call it a bug and i dont see it being a problem

Something isn't working as intended and as such it is too strong, that is both a bug and a problem whether it's important or not. Not sure why you're arguing semantics there.

Kaitanaroyr wrote:

Spoiler:

Shaman 10 with epics I have to him cause he donated.

JeFawk wrote:Shaman 10 with epics I have to him cause he donated.

Pay 2 win?

Jesus Alvanos u do like to rant.
I cant be bothered to argue with you so whatever. If indeed shamans damage gets lowered it happens, i will adapt and still be fine...
Do it, try zerg me and lol im well use to it, also says how immature and rage filled u are.
Im pretty sure u have played in the last 2 years, infact i remember squatting u like a fly at the server event last monday and also seeing u on official servers before shutdown.
Not sure how i remember you tho mayb you were that badass wl or a crazy suicidal wl or mayb u are this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2xst_CRH3Q idk but yea u rant on i cant be bothered.