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Re: Changelog 08.12.2015

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:19 pm
by wiscel
Thanks again to the team :-)

Re: Changelog 08.12.2015

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:20 pm
by RyanMakara
lator wrote:
RyanMakara wrote:With a good premade, you'd get about 20 to 40 kills in a scenario. You'd still have to do at least 8 of them to account for missing race kills and losses against better premades.
But you also get extra drops from scenario kills. If you go in a warband you will roll against 1/24. In scenarios you double the medallion chance + get instant action with 1/12 or even better odds on top of the kill quest reward. This is too lucrative and "easy way out" option for farming the Devastator set.
RyanMakara wrote:I'd rather have people fight each other for the sake of obtaining RvR gear than zerg a keep for only 2 medals. The 2 medals per keep only WITH defenders is too low considering a full set of Devastator gear costs 285 medals. Scaling it up to 5 will make Devastator more widely available; something I don't see a problem with if new players need to gear up to compete in RvR.
I agree 2 medallions is too low for area locks and that's why 5 is over the top from kill quest unless they change the area lock rewards as well (or lower the kill quest one). I have no problem with people gearing up faster, but if it means empty rvr lakes that is not what I'd like to see.
I agree that empty RvR lakes would be a sad thing to see, but not everyone is made for premades and will still resort to zerging in the lakes for the sake of kills and keep takes. Especially a lot of new players. Medallion rates in SCs are still shared between 12 people; not only your own premade group. Basically with this killcount quest, everyone will eventually benefit from the kills they made and have more of a guarantee to get their currency. 5 medals over 2 will quicken this process immensely and even negate the feeling of a 'grind', keeping players motivated to go out there and kill. Empty keeps are still being zerged even if the reward is minimal. Also, think of the extra effort put into keep defenses with a 150 killquest for 5 medals; it's basically a win-win both ways.

Re: Changelog 08.12.2015

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:24 pm
by Tesq
very nice, did also the hp regen work? i heard around that other than have not the correct ammount it also not worked?

sad about the kill quest it was asked from some ppl to avoid to move the action into sc :(

Re: Changelog 08.12.2015

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:25 pm
by lator
RyanMakara wrote:Also, think of the extra effort put into keep defenses with a 150 killquest for 5 medals; it's basically a win-win both ways.
This is the only positive thing I see with this change as well. Defending in a warband will be beneficial as it should be. Even better defensive ticks should give 1 medallion each on top of it as well but this is a start.

I for one hand solo que with my alt sorc very often and it took 2 days to gather 65 medallions in scenarios only (devastator gloves+shoulders). With the huge damage you get sometimes even 50 kills/scenario and medallions fly in from every direction. Even if you lose you get usually lots of kills, but of course this is not as easy for every class.

Re: Changelog 08.12.2015

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:28 pm
by goa
lator wrote: I agree 2 medallions is too low for area locks and that's why 5 is over the top from kill quest unless they change the area lock rewards as well (or lower the kill quest one). I have no problem with people gearing up faster, but if it means empty rvr lakes that is not what I'd like to see.
5 might be high, 2 or 3 sounds better. The devastator set is kind of the current end game now. So if you can obtain it in a few days, many players will be "done" and wait for T4 or whatever big update comes next.

A problem with the rvr lakes is that there seems to be a "let's-not-even-try-to-defend-because-then-they-won't-get-medallions" mentality. Maybe add a chance of getting a medallion in empty castles as well, something like 30%, scaling up.

Re: Changelog 08.12.2015

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:31 pm
by Shandar
Wow ! Nice one guys! My respects to your work.

Re: Changelog 08.12.2015

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:32 pm
by Dykonfrost
When the servers go back?

Re: Changelog 08.12.2015

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:42 pm
by lator
goa wrote:A problem with the rvr lakes is that there seems to be a "let's-not-even-try-to-defend-because-then-they-won't-get-medallions" mentality. Maybe add a chance of getting a medallion in empty castles as well, something like 30%, scaling up.
I agree. Or give 1 medallion reward for defensive keep tick. Would encourage open rvr action.

Re: Changelog 08.12.2015

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:47 pm
by Serak
Slippery slope when you start rewarding empty keep takes. I admit I would rather leave the keep than get zergrolled to benefit the opponent. Just my personal feeling about it.


To the Dev team, Thank you for all your time and hard work. It doesn't go unnoticed, unappreciated at times but thank you for a thankless job.

Re: Changelog 08.12.2015

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:57 pm
by Toldavf
nice work