Return of Reckoning

Wam wrote:nice to see the Dawi get some more numbers again, I hope you guys had fun too

Was hard. 3 Destro wb Camping the wc.
We were coordinating with cntk. One was attacking. The other tried to flank. That didn't worked though when the flanking order warband was intercepted by two destro WBs.

It got more fluently when we took the skaven tunnel and roamed the South though. But overall the Bitterstone Thunderers have none against it if morals would be removed completely from the game.

Glorian wrote: But overall the Bitterstone Thunderers have none against it if morals would be removed completely from the game.

Raze mostly. It just kills off entire battles.

Glorian wrote:

Wam wrote:nice to see the Dawi get some more numbers again, I hope you guys had fun too

Was hard. 3 Destro wb Camping the wc.
We were coordinating with cntk. One was attacking. The other tried to flank. That didn't worked though when the flanking order warband was intercepted by two destro WBs.

It got more fluently when we took the skaven tunnel and roamed the South though. But overall the Bitterstone Thunderers have none against it if morals would be removed completely from the game.

It wasn't 3, it was 5-6 and it was lame. i mostly blame the pug mentality of order guilds.

you should get some help from elfs to pump your morales. and don't forget about morale jewelry aswell. still it's impossible to reach M4 in open fight but on the another hand for you can use the most brutal M4's in keep defence.

IB: http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=ib; ... ;;;0:0:0:0:
Slayer: http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=sla ... :;;0:0:0:0:
RP: http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=rp; ... :;;0:0:0:0:
Engie: http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=eng ... 652:3646:0:

morale jewels: 4 piece of 26 stat +2 morale
back : 24 stat +4 morale
belt : 32 stat +2 morale

also about the flanking: don't do it if you don't have spike damage and high durability.

Kragg wrote:

Glorian wrote: But overall the Bitterstone Thunderers have none against it if morals would be removed completely from the game.

Raze mostly. It just kills off entire battles.

Raze is nothing if you CC ( aoe punt) /interrupt (flashbang?) / double healing potion ( 4.5 k heal )

The builds are true. But we don't spec and train for moral bombing. We want to fight and not drop our morals at the same time. Also we have between 6-24 dwarfs in the warband and are happy if the event dwarfs at least use the enemy addon or swift assist.
Let forget about warband setup, morals, gear or all in one voicechat.

so don't expect a success. and don't whine. single target 24 man is just a bad idea same like 8 engineers in same warband. you have to sacrifice for your real time - 1 day in a week is simply nothing - , you have to bust your brain to check your lads gear/spec/rr / then you can see the light maybe.

but again: the community loves zerging and when the things come zerg vs zerg fight -which i dont prefer - you'll lose.

Haojin wrote:

Glorian wrote:
Raze is nothing if you CC ( aoe punt) /interrupt (flashbang?) / double healing potion ( 4.5 k heal )

TUP drops M2 within 30 seconds after the battle starts. I have morale gear as well but a pug of Dwarfs can't bring such organisation and we do not have enough dwarfs to fill a warband of our own. We do small scale stuff and that has been goign quite good for us lately.

If an entire warband is build around one tactic it might be handy to start looking into that tactic. But you know all about that, don't you?

if you dont bomb then is no point stay blobed just split and gg (ok maybee same will be pulled and morale bombed, but you can still res them

its shitty to cry to nerf just becouse you dont wanna adapt

Foltestik wrote:if you dont bomb then is no point stay blobed just split and gg (ok maybee same will be pulled and morale bombed, but you can still res them

its shitty to cry to nerf just becouse you dont wanna adapt

We are not whining but we feel once we reached the point where entire warbands play the game who gets to raze first and drops it the mechanic might be counter-productive in having a fun battle all around. A sentiment Phalanx echoed fighting us in the themed warband battles, remember? Longer battles are more fun then plain morale dropping.

Leave it to the "elite rvr bombers" to come and teach a fun RP guild on how they think they should play and call RP players whiners. As if CNTK thread wasn't enough for that already.
Glorian is just too much of a nice guy at this point, my 2cents.

Foltestik wrote:if you dont bomb then is no point stay blobed just split and gg (ok maybee same will be pulled and morale bombed, but you can still res them ...

We stand in a Formation. Because we like Warhammer Tabletop and a lore centered way of doing rvr, and not because it is the most effective way to counter a moral bomb.

When we were heavily on tinkerers and grenadiers melting people was also good in such a dense knot.

But as said: The overall goal is to do RvR in style. If we do it competitive we would go 2 SnB IBs, 2 AoE Slayers, 2 Runis. This four times. And one Engi in the Warband to be the Eliphas Magnet guy.

One IB guard on One Healer. The other IB to react on his Healer or the Slayers.

All IBs with M2 Rage. Runis with M2 Rampaging Siphon.

We have a whole dwarf warband build for keep defense, moral bombing, endless funneling. It is not like we don't know this. You will find most likely no other guild with a deeper knowledge of dwarf skills, morals and abilities on the server.

But this wouldn't be the 3rd Bitterstone Thunderers.

Hell we ran as 12 Engis in a Gunline on live when the Engi was Cannon fodder in T4.