Return of Reckoning

Nanji wrote:(srsly why does no one give hp debuff the credit it deserves?)

I do. hrhr

Imo the destro faction is generally blessed with debuffs, while the order faction has a better "raw damage output" (under the line).

Luth wrote:Imo the destro faction is generally blessed with debuffs, while the order faction has a better "raw damage output" (under the line).

that is not true, destru classes are in general better for solo play while order has a better overall synergy between their classes.

debuff wise i would say it is pretty even. dps wise (if you compare classes 1:1) destru got the edge.

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Bretin wrote:destru classes are in general better for solo play

Made my day

Nanji wrote:you can generally say that order is op due to crit stacking

Fixed it for you

HNY

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Bretin wrote:destru classes are in general better for solo play

Made my day

Bozzax wrote:

Nanji wrote:you can generally say that order is op due to crit stacking

Fixed it for you

HNY

No, go and fix your l2p issue.

Bretin wrote:

Luth wrote:Imo the destro faction is generally blessed with debuffs, while the order faction has a better "raw damage output" (under the line).

that is not true, destru classes are in general better for solo play while order has a better overall synergy between their classes.

debuff wise i would say it is pretty even. dps wise (if you compare classes 1:1) destru got the edge.

Na, my post was unclear. With "under the line" i meant the typical 2/2/2 setups you see in T4.
Imo the debuff potential on the destruction is higher because of the marauder, the various wounds debuffs and most important the WP (as probably the most played order healer) ezmode group cleanse can't cleanse the majority of the incoming heal- and wounds debuffs you usually encounter.
So the often favoured double WP setup is rly bad when it comes to cleanse the destro melee train (or the mighty SH ).

It was actually more a statement on the general possibilities on most of the 08/15 2/2/2 group setups people seem to favour in the game.

why do people do double wp/dok? its bad precisely for the reason you stated wp cant deal with mara and dok cant deal with ib hdbuff

Dok has one of the strongest morales with its M2 in the whole game. Hence double Dok is okay, while WP is not.
Also Dok cleanses everything but Kotbs/IB/WL, which makes it even stronger compared to the WP, who cannot cleanse any incoming healdebuffs.

Scrilian wrote:I got it. Make DT 30% crit(melee, heal, ranged +10) buff a blessing so you can shatter it, just like you can cleanse CS 50% damage debuff (melee, ranged -25).
*the true way of calculating*

didn't get if youy were serious or not but the problems is even change that you will need to cleanse 1 buff from each enemy while this proc instead for all aprty with 1 block, also cleanse CS it's easier due the aoe cleanse and the need to st crit someone, it's also improbable that this would results in being able to cleanse healer in backlines, so maybe you would be able to shatter some melee, but it's totaly difficut shatter it when 80% if enchantement and blessing are stacked by healers hot.