Return of Reckoning

Nishka wrote:I agree with op. Pug vs premade is boring for both sides. In pug you get curbstomped and have to sit in wc for 10 min, in premade you get no challenge and camp wc for 10 min. Is there no way that "premades only vs premades" system could be implemented?

"i dont want to cooperate and organize a group, so punish those who even dares to"
I have a better idea for you. How about they make 2 separate RvR lakes for each zone, one for premade Warbands and one for pugs?

Scrilian wrote:

Nishka wrote:I agree with op. Pug vs premade is boring for both sides. In pug you get curbstomped and have to sit in wc for 10 min, in premade you get no challenge and camp wc for 10 min. Is there no way that "premades only vs premades" system could be implemented?

"i dont want to cooperate and organize a group, so punish those who even dares to"
I have a better idea for you. How about they make 2 separate RvR lakes for each zone, one for premade Warbands and one for pugs?

Seems like someone enjoys farming pugs in premade and is afraid of real opposition, because, well, you can lose there. Does constant "winning" in organized group against casual players give you the feeling of superiority?

Nishka wrote: Seems like someone enjoys farming pugs in premade and is afraid of real opposition, because, well, you can lose there. Does constant "winning" in organized group against casual players give you the feeling of superiority?

Seems like someone failed at basic communication in MMO with other people and somehow sees this unfair and not his fault that he is farmed in wc. Does constant losing against good players give you nightmares?

Scrilian wrote:

Nishka wrote:I agree with op. Pug vs premade is boring for both sides. In pug you get curbstomped and have to sit in wc for 10 min, in premade you get no challenge and camp wc for 10 min. Is there no way that "premades only vs premades" system could be implemented?

"i dont want to cooperate and organize a group, so punish those who even dares to"
I have a better idea for you. How about they make 2 separate RvR lakes for each zone, one for premade Warbands and one for pugs?

Pretty bad sugestion.
1: Population isn't big enough for this

2: Why punish the guilds who put tremendous amount of effort into getting fixed groups for wb action by giving em noone to fight?

3: The guilds running wb's are usually open to try anyone out, Just ask if you can try out for them, It's usually pretty basic requirements like having acess to vent/teamspeak and follow the WB leader. If your guild isn't running any wb action and thats what you wanna play you're in the wrong guild.

Nishka wrote:

Scrilian wrote:

Nishka wrote:I agree with op. Pug vs premade is boring for both sides. In pug you get curbstomped and have to sit in wc for 10 min, in premade you get no challenge and camp wc for 10 min. Is there no way that "premades only vs premades" system could be implemented?

"i dont want to cooperate and organize a group, so punish those who even dares to"
I have a better idea for you. How about they make 2 separate RvR lakes for each zone, one for premade Warbands and one for pugs?

Seems like someone enjoys farming pugs in premade and is afraid of real opposition, because, well, you can lose there. Does constant "winning" in organized group against casual players give you the feeling of superiority?

Seems like someone enjoy being sociopath + egoist and afraid of being in any group, or not being enable to gather own group because, well, it's the other people in the Massive Multiplayer online game, and you must interact with them. Does constant playing ~im-a-mister-single-player-style~ in a MMO game give you the feeling of comfort?

Well...this topic is nothing new. There were in the ancient history of LIVE WAR treads like this one. It brings nothing new to discussion.
Want to be in premade? Create one. Find some guys who want to be best in their classes, form a party, queue for scenario and win. Those guys in premades were focused on the game, spending hours and hours playing they class so now they are good.
Other thing is that you can learn from them a lot.
But as i can observe and did some observations in the past there are always some guys who decide to cry a river in forums/advice/tierchats whatever than work on themselves to be better players.
The answer is WORK, WORK, and work.

P.S: sorry about my bad english

Robin my suggestion was full of sarcasm >_<

Scrilian wrote:Robin my suggestion was full of sarcasm >_<

At this forums you always had to add this picture -

Why should those who put effort into making an effective 6-man group for scenarios be penalised/come under criticism? Scenarios are all about small-scale competitive PvP: if you don't want this, you can join a WB and follow the zerg around till your heart's content.

I don't see people complaining about WBs roflstomping anyone that isn't in a WB. If you do orvr, you need to be in a wb/competitive group to make an impact; similarly, if you're in a scenario, you should expect to come up against premades that want to farm emblems as easily and effectively as possible.

Don't solo queue, find some friends (heck even if you get a tank, a dps, and a healer, and get someone to assist - you'll win more than you'll lose...) and reap the rewards.

Having said that, I wouldn't mind premade vs premade scenarios. Maybe add that little map that catered to 6v6 (forgot name of sc)? Though the times would be slow, especially during NA hours. Whilst we're at it: let's also add WB and non-WB RvR zones

Reesh wrote:

Ninepaces wrote:I don't see why premades should only be allowed to be play against premades when 48-man bombing groups are allowed to farm solo puggers in orvr and not forced to fight only against other organized 48-man groups.

Wait, what just happened in there? 48? Where did you get that number?

So in that post you deliberately said that you enjoy killing pugs in scs as a 6 man, owning them into the ground without much of an effort (because you just hate the idea of constantly playing vs other premade), but, well, doesn't want to go out into RvR instead with few of your buddies.
Just a hint, all it is required is to form up with few other 6 mans to challenge anything on the RvR field.

And those organised RvR groups enjoys fights the most, not to farm regular pug people.

I didn't say I enjoy killing pugs.
I didn't say I hate the idea of playing vs other premades.

I'm just saying if you're going to confine certain people to playing only other certain people that standard has to be applied across the entire game, or else its a double standard.