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Scrilian wrote:Ofc, if by talented you mean guarded and healed :^)Foxbeep wrote:I hate to post this tired response but
"Wait until T4"
Talented Witch Elves and Witch Hunters become some of the most dangerous players in the game
I'm not a WE, but the 50% AA haste from IF doesn't decrease your damage from autos. The autos attack 50% faster. So a WH autos will hit for more damage at the same speed as witch elves strike with auto attacks.Jaycub wrote:They don't need heaps of wep skill, seal of destruction/torment and the mirrors, WE also have witchbrew and puncture armor. Also they don't "start" to underperform in t4, they get MUCH better than they are currently.Toldavf wrote:Solo killing healers is not your job this is a mistake many WE/WH make and they die for it allot. No good healer is going to die to a wh solo they will detaunt, cc, kite away. When a WH/WE tries this they are usually the only thing that dies so much can go wrong when your away from any kind of support on an mdps your 1 piece of cc away from being dead.
These classes especially WH will start to under preform in T4 due to their design as a squishy high damage assassin they are just sub par in groups, they are another MAD dependent class but unlike others the WH has no way of getting any weapon skill (the witch elf can be slightly ahead on this) to aide his other skills and as all their damage is positional they are going to suffer in a melee trail environment where all their damage is positional and they are prime targets due to light armour(again WE is slightly ahead due to better tactics and procs).
You can become quite quite a threat to healers once you have outgoing and incoming healdebuff in conjuction with your KD and crit multi tactic, the problem is without self punt right now when they peel for you its all ogre.
Also what is up with WE's acting like 50% AA haste is the 2nd holocaust? Your daggers are as fast as 1.6 speed base? Swords/pistol are at best 2.0 speed usually 2.4? Also choppas can buff your AA speed.
Why?Bretin wrote:the WE is more likely a hit and run class with either huge front- or backloaded burst potential (higher burst peaks than the wh)
Class variation; WH can be played a lot more defensively than WE as wellAtropik wrote:Why?Bretin wrote:the WE is more likely a hit and run class with either huge front- or backloaded burst potential (higher burst peaks than the wh)
U cannot take PA+WB, the same time Exit Wound provides much more damege then all WB procs taken together.TenTonHammer wrote:witch brew
puncture armor
Why?Foxbeep wrote: Class variation; WH can be played a lot more defensively than WE as well
Puncture, the core skill, the one that ignores all armor when attacking from behind, not pierce armor.Atropik wrote:U cannot take PA+WB, the same time Exit Wound provides much more damege then all WB procs taken together.
Wrong. Its shame, but at the end RvR weapons have all the same speed, doesnt matter if its sword, dagger or axeJaycub wrote:They don't need heaps of wep skill, seal of destruction/torment and the mirrors, WE also have witchbrew and puncture armor. Also they don't "start" to underperform in t4, they get MUCH better than they are currently.Toldavf wrote:Solo killing healers is not your job this is a mistake many WE/WH make and they die for it allot. No good healer is going to die to a wh solo they will detaunt, cc, kite away. When a WH/WE tries this they are usually the only thing that dies so much can go wrong when your away from any kind of support on an mdps your 1 piece of cc away from being dead.
These classes especially WH will start to under preform in T4 due to their design as a squishy high damage assassin they are just sub par in groups, they are another MAD dependent class but unlike others the WH has no way of getting any weapon skill (the witch elf can be slightly ahead on this) to aide his other skills and as all their damage is positional they are going to suffer in a melee trail environment where all their damage is positional and they are prime targets due to light armour(again WE is slightly ahead due to better tactics and procs).
You can become quite quite a threat to healers once you have outgoing and incoming healdebuff in conjuction with your KD and crit multi tactic, the problem is without self punt right now when they peel for you its all ogre.
Also what is up with WE's acting like 50% AA haste is the 2nd holocaust? Your daggers are as fast as 1.6 speed base? Swords/pistol are at best 2.0 speed usually 2.4? Also choppas can buff your AA speed.
The burst peaks are reach due to abilities that involve a spec like such:Atropik wrote:Why?Bretin wrote:the WE is more likely a hit and run class with either huge front- or backloaded burst potential (higher burst peaks than the wh)