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Re: [SW] M2 Changes

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:10 pm
by GodlessCrom
I almost always see only BW/sorc on top of kill list, both NA/EU times. Havent played as much in the past few months, just getting back into it, so could be wrong. Got any screenshots?

Re: [SW] M2 Changes

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:23 pm
by footpatrol2
footpatrol2 wrote:The topic is not closed.

Why do you think it is?
This statement was meant to be interpreted as: Penril why do you think HTL is fixed? Not "why do you think the topic is still open?"

I didn't know if it was fixed or not. I assumed it wasn't because hao's bugtracker post is somewhat recent. Penril has WAY better communication with the dev's then I do. For all I knew it could have been fixed and the bugtracker wasn't updated. I haven't conduced any recent testing to see if it wasn't fixed.

Re: [SW] M2 Changes

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:28 pm
by lefze
GodlessCrom wrote:I almost always see only BW/sorc on top of kill list, both NA/EU times. Havent played as much in the past few months, just getting back into it, so could be wrong. Got any screenshots?
https://imgur.com/IscA65N
https://imgur.com/JBvlrPB

Don't really take a lotofscreens, sadly.

Re: [SW] M2 Changes

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:30 pm
by GodlessCrom
Fair enough :) thanks m8, always good to see people with actual evidence and not hearsay or theorycrafting or "this TOTALLY happened in the lakes guise!"

Re: [SW] M2 Changes

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:32 pm
by lefze
GodlessCrom wrote:Fair enough :) thanks m8, always good to see people with actual evidence and not hearsay or theorycrafting or "this TOTALLY happened in the lakes guise!"
Eh, been abusing certain mechanics really hard for a few weeks now, ez top zonekills for whole warband/party/whatever ^^

Re: [SW] M2 Changes

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:51 pm
by Ugle
dansari wrote:
Ugle wrote:For bombing purposes at least SW is now only viable as a debuffer. Opens up a few interesting specs though.
For smallscale, I hope there is some plan behind it rather than: "Lets see what happens".

I'm all for removing UF, but all the proposals previously declined because of UF should be revisited.

In the current armor stacking environment, a flat out 30% dmg buff is needed for being viable.
Ehhh that's a bold statement. Even without UF you can hit pretty hard with LA. Above all else, just give it some time to test.
Maybe not too apparant when I read my post again (on phone).. Was not referring to LS about dmg buff. SW and SH got no burst without UF. In smallscale burst matters. If ES+LS+UF was a problem, remove/rework LS/ES instead of removing the phrdps only burst potential without (at least a plan of) reworking the burst/ dmg potential.

No need to test the glaringly obvious consequence for all phrdps of removing their only (and class defining) burst potential; you'll be useless. No reason to pick the class for anything above any other dps/loldps tank class.

A start would be removing extra ap cost for EY/Plink tactic, removing increased cast time for SW auto crit next attacks skill (can't remember name due to being a useless skill never on the toolbar. Adding half offhand weapon dps as on live etc.

Re: [SW] M2 Changes

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:56 pm
by Danord
Jaycub wrote:
TenTonHammer wrote:No more easy medals in oRvR via shoot though ya/LA spam
I dont really ever see sw/sh players on top of enemy zone kills, unless thats an EU specific problem.

As for the m2, it's just cheese. Focused mind is better all around anyways. Try playing mdps where you arent allowed to get overpowered m2's you can gib people 100ft away with.
1 word

Teefz

Re: [SW] M2 Changes

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:03 pm
by roadkillrobin
Jaycub wrote:
TenTonHammer wrote:No more easy medals in oRvR via shoot though ya/LA spam
I dont really ever see sw/sh players on top of enemy zone kills, unless thats an EU specific problem.

As for the m2, it's just cheese. Focused mind is better all around anyways. Try playing mdps where you arent allowed to get overpowered m2's you can gib people 100ft away with.
lol seems like NA players are slow to catch the ORVR fotm.
This weeks top kills all been SW/SH. Like the first 15 people on the list been those classes.

Re: [SW] M2 Changes

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:51 am
by Collateral
Yep, the classes were quite obviously very broken. We didn't get the chance yet to test the sh spam and see how it performs without M2, but we will see I guess. Also, in that second pic lefze posted, all top 5 kills are shs.

Re: [SW] M2 Changes

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:09 pm
by Razz1n
Haojin wrote:end of cheese session for LA spammers : )
sure only destro should spam cheese moral bombs :D