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Re: [Sybella] Old Guardian WL
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:13 pm
by carmine3161
kweedko wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:54 pm
carmine3161 wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:46 pm
There is no trade happening your toughness is adding damage to the pet, that's why stalker and lion's fury is important, it gives the pet about 160 str and 24% crit + 62% crit damage, really needed the armor debuff so the pet could benefit from it cause its weaponskill is pretty low.
Sure tarded 1.5k+ crits for 400 lion crits it's not a trade, sure keep convincing yourself.
From my dps tests normal WL had better sustained burst but guardian had way more actual burst potential, normal WL was basically how it is now, i get around 2400-3300dps, 3300dps being with good crits during the rotation, guardian WL burst with my build was always above 4000dps. Sure you dont see big numbers, you just see a lot more little numbers but they add up. It's not 1.5k crit (off guillotine usually) for 400, its 1.5k crit for 4x 400 hits with good chance for crits + another 400+ damage from leonine frenzy which is just a rotation of 2 damaging abilities. Don't really know why we are debating this since it's most likely never making a comeback, not in the same power atleast. So ill call it here for now, thanks for the discussion.
Re: [Sybella] Old Guardian WL
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:49 pm
by kweedko
carmine3161 wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:13 pm
From my dps tests normal WL had better sustained burst but guardian had way more actual burst potential, normal WL was basically how it is now, i get around 2400-3300dps, 3300dps being with good crits during the rotation, guardian WL burst with my build was always above 4000dps. Sure you dont see big numbers, you just see a lot more little numbers but they add up. It's not 1.5k crit (off guillotine usually) for 400, its 1.5k crit for 4x 400 hits with good chance for crits + another 400+ damage from leonine frenzy which is just a rotation of 2 damaging abilities. Don't really know why we are debating this since it's most likely never making a comeback, not in the same power atleast. So ill call it here for now, thanks for the discussion.
If you going for FO and LF then you not having Primal Fury, CtW, and Heal debuf which making you even more usless, lowering the best base dmg skills in Axman tree. Going guardian you anyways loose more dmg then you get.
Skills of lion stays the same no mater of spec little more little less dmg yes, if you hitted 4 hits then you hitted 4 hits anyway, actually you crippeling your dps with trading str for togh - and lion never do such dmg as elf itself.
Re: [Sybella] Friendly 6v6 vs ICONIC
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:25 am
by carmine3161
Sybella and friends in a 6v6 vs ICONIC. There was some fights involving the power ball which made for some difficult but fun fights. GG to ICONIC
Click here to watch on YouTube
Re: [Sybella] Friendly 6v6 vs ICONIC
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:10 am
by Xergon
Niceu fights, nice vid, chill music
Bamb use your Staggers more offensively, specially when you dont have RP in group, its even better than RP one, because its undefendable 6s stun
Re: [Sybella] Friendly 6v6 vs ICONIC
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:52 am
by qwerty113
Why you guys doesn't punt off their tanks, its easy kill. tank -> punt, heal-stagger -> easy
Re: [Sybella] Friendly 6v6 vs ICONIC
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:01 am
by Xergon
you know there is something like "Immunity" and Parry/Block, its very rare on Tank Build to land KB on Tank Build
i'm pretty sure that's why they didn't punt guards.
Re: [Sybella] Friendly 6v6 vs ICONIC
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:17 am
by carmine3161
qwerty113 wrote: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:52 am
Why you guys doesn't punt off their tanks, its easy kill. tank -> punt, heal-stagger -> easy
In the first part of the video they had 3 tanks so it was unlikely we would ever get rid of that guard mitigation (kotb's being the main punter), for the 2nd part of the video that's a fair point, its something our tanks need to work on for the future.
Re: [Sybella] Friendly 6v6 vs ICONIC
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:18 am
by Reesh
Last vid had a decent combat, gz to both.
Re: [Sybella] Friendly 6v6 vs ICONIC
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:43 am
by peterthepan3
Entertaining fights to watch, and much respect to ICONIC for coming out into the open.
I genuinely feel ICONIC have what it takes to be NA's best Destro premade if they work on a few things, but geting yourselves a DPS BG would be my biggest piece of advice.
Re: [Sybella] Friendly 6v6 vs ICONIC
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:13 pm
by HongTen
Ayiaiai