Re: RSH Underperforming
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:26 am
yeah rsh actually op, pls nerf them.
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Well, rSHs are an easy kill so they are targeted first. Most classes can burst kill you in 3 sec so you aren't much use to the WB. Healers don't heal you, cause you melt so fast, and tanks don't guard you cause you have to kite to survive. And if a WB doesn't kick you for a better option, you get dumped in either your own party or a party with lowbies, WEs, and no healers. So how is that fun? You might as well be solo which if there's a WH or WL around, you're dead.CeeJay89 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:33 am
I don't understand. Are Squig Herders really concerned about not having a fighting chance? You have a literal tool for everything, and your damage is anything but weak.
RUN AWAY!, Run Away!, KABOOM!, Drop That!, Horn Squig knockdown, Sticky Squiqz, stackable detaunts...all but one being a baseline ability.
I'm not even going to get started on mSH. There's no other class that has the utility and tools a SH has. I can't fathom how you can possibly expect more.
Cptkud wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:17 am Well, rSHs are an easy kill so they are targeted first. Most classes can burst kill you in 3 sec so you aren't much use to the WB. Healers don't heal you, cause you melt so fast, and tanks don't guard you cause you have to kite to survive. And if a WB doesn't kick you for a better option, you get dumped in either your own party or a party with lowbies, WEs, and no healers. So how is that fun? You might as well be solo which if there's a WH or WL around, you're dead.
CeeJay89 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:33 am I don't understand. Are Squig Herders really concerned about not having a fighting chance? You have a literal tool for everything, and your damage is anything but weak.
RUN AWAY!, Run Away!, KABOOM!, Drop That!, Horn Squig knockdown, Sticky Squiqz, stackable detaunts...all but one being a baseline ability.
I'm not even going to get started on mSH. There's no other class that has the utility and tools a SH has. I can't fathom how you can possibly expect more.
Except mSH is the "off spec" for SH, rSH is the main spec and no matter how you spec your rSH (dps, utility, aoe (lol)) you're not really wanted. That is not the same as playing a dps-specced healer or tank or solo-specced engi/magus/WL/mara. SH is a range class first and foremost, if I wanted to play a melee class I would play mara or choppa. Re-speccing to mSH from rSH is not the same as switching around some points and tactics to get more AoE/utility, you completely change everything about how the class plays to the point where you might as well just have switched to a different char. It's just not the same thing.Jabba wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:34 am Still don't understand why people are talking about rSH not being wanted in warbands as a reason for changing them. If you want to play in warbands on a sh, you don't play rSH.
If you want to play in warbands on zeal/shaman/dok/rp/wp/am....you don't play dps, you play heal.
If you want to play warbands on a tank, you don't play as a loldps spec, you play as snb or select 2h utility specs.
If you want to play in a warband on choppa/slayer, you don't play 2h spec, you play dual wield with the appropriate spec.
If you want to play as an engi/magus, you don't play as a single target/toughness roam spec. You spec appropiately.
WL you don't play with pet spec. You play loner.
Mara, you don't play a savagery/brutality build. You spec Monstro.
etc etc
All classes have specs that are not viable for warbands, if you want to play in proper warbands on these classes, maybe you don't get to play your preferred spec. For SH, this means you play mSH, rather than range.
rSH have, by far, the best toolkit of any dps class for orvr smallscale roaming, both for countering other classes strengths as well as escape tools for any situation. As you have a SH in your signature I guess listing them up is not needed. What you don't have in the QS spec is pure burst, which means you should play accordingly, as well as assess the encounters and choose your battles wisely. (like any other class)sgtnanners wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:57 am Tell me what rSH excels at. Ini and block debuffing people? What situation are rSHs better at other classes in because they arent the best solo roamers, they arent good in wbs, and they arent good in cities. Rsh have 2 builds. The turret style poison arrer build which you might as well be a magus or the kiting quick shooting build with healing debuff which you might as well be a dps sham. rSH are balanced because they are good at duo roaming with pocket healer? Because even then I can think of better 2 man combos. rSH are good at 6 man roaming then why dont they bring them to 6v6 tournies. What are rSH good at? What are rSH best at? They are support class?
Loner isn't the main spec for wl.franzjaeger wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:50 amExcept mSH is the "off spec" for SH, rSH is the main spec and no matter how you spec your rSH (dps, utility, aoe (lol)) you're not really wanted. That is not the same as playing a dps-specced healer or tank or solo-specced engi/magus/WL/mara. SH is a range class first and foremost, if I wanted to play a melee class I would play mara or choppa. Re-speccing to mSH from rSH is not the same as switching around some points and tactics to get more AoE/utility, you completely change everything about how the class plays to the point where you might as well just have switched to a different char. It's just not the same thing.Jabba wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:34 am Still don't understand why people are talking about rSH not being wanted in warbands as a reason for changing them. If you want to play in warbands on a sh, you don't play rSH.
If you want to play in warbands on zeal/shaman/dok/rp/wp/am....you don't play dps, you play heal.
If you want to play warbands on a tank, you don't play as a loldps spec, you play as snb or select 2h utility specs.
If you want to play in a warband on choppa/slayer, you don't play 2h spec, you play dual wield with the appropriate spec.
If you want to play as an engi/magus, you don't play as a single target/toughness roam spec. You spec appropiately.
WL you don't play with pet spec. You play loner.
Mara, you don't play a savagery/brutality build. You spec Monstro.
etc etc
All classes have specs that are not viable for warbands, if you want to play in proper warbands on these classes, maybe you don't get to play your preferred spec. For SH, this means you play mSH, rather than range.