Return of Reckoning

Why BW has a range KD when the sorc has none ?

Why BW has a debuff heal when sorc has none ?

Why BW has a snare when sorc has none ?


There is a huge and powerful unbalance between BW and Sorc that make the sorc on the ground and the BW on the top in any situation .

Listen to Mez.

Bignusty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:57 pm Why BW has a range KD when the sorc has none ?

Why BW has a debuff heal when sorc has none ?

Why BW has a snare when sorc has none ?


There is a huge and powerful unbalance between BW and Sorc that make the sorc on the ground and the BW on the top in any situation .

1. Troll ability. For yourself and others. You miss out on a lot of skills and tactics for one troll move.
If you’re going to complain about a 13 point ability, complain about fireball barrage.
2. Worst one in the game. Easily cleansed. Long cool down. Waste of gcd.
Shaman had the same one but it was buffed. 9 point vs 5
3. Sorc has a snare, but it’s not channeled .

This perceived “power gap” is greatly exaggerated.

I think we can all agree that Sorc having no useful M4s is something that needs to be addressed.

All classes have powerful, fight-changing M4's, the combined efforts of which can decide the outcomes of forts and keeps.

The Sorc has not, and I see no reasonable explanation for this.

wtb blink\teleport for sorc

Fey wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:32 amListen to Mez.

Since cap targets changed from 9 to 24 nobody cares about ST, AoE is king. BW AoE >> Sorc AoE

Fey wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:32 amListen to Mez.

2727 DPS on ST => lets see if any sorc comes close to this....ATM is the higher dps posted...

wonshot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:07 am https://imgur.com/a/W2C35Yo

Build: Fireball47

emiliorv wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:38 am 2727 DPS on ST => lets see if any sorc comes close to this....ATM is the higher dps posted...

/irony

Mez wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:33 pm If you want to really snipe, casting obsessive focus and shades of death are sleepers at a wall. Targets wont even budge.

Mez points out the way xd

emiliorv wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:38 am 2727 DPS on ST => lets see if any sorc comes close to this....ATM is the higher dps posted...

wonshot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:07 am https://imgur.com/a/W2C35Yo

Build: Fireball47

I would assume Sorcs could "easily" perform the same. I just spent 5 minuts theorycrafting the best potential targetdummy-killer build and fished for a pure crit session for like 5minuts to get that result. With no Event item for extra int, and no talisman in my Sentinel ring. So room for slight improvements.

Mez wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:33 pm This isnt even going into BW's Slow Boil (our vision of torment) being broken. It hits for half what sorc's VoT does.

Since i got draggin to this, mind if i ask you about this difference because when i ran some scaling tests on BW over a year ago Slowboil really supriced me how badly it scaled with Masterypoints:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/125k ... H7Hqg/edit

"0point immolation:
Ignite ticks for: 229
Boilingblood hits for: 626
Slow boil hits dummy for: 360

1point immolation:
Ignite ticks for: 233 (+4 per masterypoint)
Boilingblood hits for: 636 (+10 per masterypoint)
Slow boil hits dummy for: 361 (+1 per mastery point)"
(From the document test link)

emiliorv wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:02 am

Fey wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:32 amListen to Mez.

Since cap targets changed from 9 to 24 nobody cares about ST, AoE is king. BW AoE >> Sorc AoE

For pug stomp both are great ..for high end organised fights 24vs24 i would take none of them (thanks gods/devs that mara stack is not meta anymore) but if i would need to chose i would take rather sorceress taking into consideration synergies which it may provide. You don't have to believe me - especially im talking something that is not commonly approved - your choice.