Return of Reckoning

Phantasm wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:19 am Obvious next step to improve that addon is to make sequence to skip skills which cant be actively pressed anyway without met conditions built-in to a skill

emiliorv wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:08 am

Phantasm wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:19 am Obvious next step to improve that addon is to make sequence to skip skills which cant be actively pressed anyway without met conditions built-in to a skill

Thats a conditional check
Skip abilities in Cooldown are conditional checks

In both cases addon will make the decision instead player => a player can keep pressing the button of an ability that is in CD or cant be used in that moment => addons cant make the decision to skip that.

tvbrowntown wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:55 amI see. I'd prefer to have a less stupid Sequencer at least. If your spell is on CD you're stuck there until you can use it to progress through the sequence with this sequencer, right? Pretty annoying for sequencing conditional spells too since most the time they're not up (When behind enemy, on block, etc.)

pagimanRalla10 wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:00 am Just badly thought out addon. The main thing is to quickly program something without testing it beforehand. Like most of this has been patched in the last few months.

I don't want to appear ungrateful and for a long time I was glad that you keep this game alive. However, the zenith of this game has long been passed and with your changes or nerves or blocking addons you have given the game the rest.
Nowadays there is hardly an MMO with so many skills; Buffs, debuffs, guard switching, assistants, taunten, detuning etc etc etc is played ... All these years we were glad that such an addon like NB had existed. So this game with its thousands of mistakes was still bearable. The fighting system is out of the question is the best thing I know but the implementation of everything and the bad skill system that seems playable without NB but is actually not fun, you have to concentrate on too much like Stuck, Slow Slow Slow Stuck stacker knockdown knock back etc. etc. that the fun of the game falls by the wayside.

In the sense of your blaze

zarlemagne wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:18 am

emiliorv wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:08 am

Phantasm wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:19 am Obvious next step to improve that addon is to make sequence to skip skills which cant be actively pressed anyway without met conditions built-in to a skill

Thats a conditional check
Skip abilities in Cooldown are conditional checks

In both cases addon will make the decision instead player => a player can keep pressing the button of an ability that is in CD or cant be used in that moment => addons cant make the decision to skip that.

By that definition - any mouse/keyboard software (which have macros) should be banned as they can be used to make sequences that skip abilities on CD.
But Warg and various GM's have said it's ok to use them.

Personnally I would prefer to use a working simple sequencer that skips Abilities that are on CD etc

ReturnOfReckoning wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 6:00 pm
We have never really liked the idea of an addon automating conditional checks for players.

Spellbound wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:15 am Few things posted here I gave the same feedback on pre-release:

1. Grayed out abilities should be skipped and moved onto the next. It’s no different than someone setting up a keyboard software to spam 1-5 which would skip Spine Crusher if not behind them and use the next ability. It’s the way the client works. This addon gets stuck on Spine Crusher (rear style) if used in a non-rear position.

If simple keyboard/mouse/macro software out there already does this which the addon can’t, why stop using those software which perform better?

You won’t hurt anything to enable it server side to allow it to skip abilities not able to be used yet. The addon would actually work near perfect other than the lack of resources gets it stuck from what I hear.

We’re just trying to improve QOL. I’m glad NB is gone that had too many advanced conditional features which this sequence wouldn’t have if you just allow it to skip abilities that are grayed out and work w other software players are using.

There’s a difference between conditional and advancing to next sequence if an ability is not ready. Conditional is when it’ll check your buffs, enemy buffs, health percentage etc before using an ability. Shatter and positionals by default in the client are grayed out to help the player out and skips the button press if you spam multiple buttons. I see no harm in enabling that.

Spellbound wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:15 am Few things posted here I gave the same feedback on pre-release:

1. Grayed out abilities should be skipped and moved onto the next. It’s no different than someone setting up a keyboard software to spam 1-5 which would skip Spine Crusher if not behind them and use the next ability. It’s the way the client works. This addon gets stuck on Spine Crusher (rear style) if used in a non-rear position.

If simple keyboard/mouse/macro software out there already does this which the addon can’t, why stop using those software which perform better?

You won’t hurt anything to enable it server side to allow it to skip abilities not able to be used yet. The addon would actually work near perfect other than the lack of resources gets it stuck from what I hear.

We’re just trying to improve QOL. I’m glad NB is gone that had too many advanced conditional features which this sequence wouldn’t have if you just allow it to skip abilities that are grayed out and work like other software players are using but they can simply just use sequencer.

There’s a difference between conditional and advancing to next sequence if an ability is not ready. Conditional is when it’ll check your buffs, enemy buffs, health percentage etc before using an ability. Shatter and positionals by default in the client are grayed out to help the player out and skips the button press if you spam multiple buttons. I see no harm in enabling that.

emiliorv wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:02 pm stop smashing 1 button expecting that one addon will select the correct action...