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Posted: **Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:19 am**

Just my 2c from a casual player, I have a bunch of toons lvl 16 abandoned. Because as soon as I hit 16 I am forced to t4, where in WB as described it's taking an often empty keep or fighting back and forth back and forth... So I am sticking with t1 small scale fights

Posted: **Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:20 am**

Vegetaplays wrote: Fri Jun 03, 2022 12:42 am They should just revert all the renown nerfs, beforehand even last year you would get about 30k per keep attack, now atmost its 15k or so. Small scale whether it be solo,duo,trio doesn't feel super rewarding, at the most you'll get 16k for a solo kill, but back then 16k for a solo kill seemed normal.

That code hasn't really been touched in over 2 years. There's only been renown buffs.

The difference is every day isn't x2 anymore due to server instability.

Posted: **Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:35 am**

Everyones like increase renown on this increase renown on that, but what will it change? Will new players come and old players return because kill renown or bo cap renown has been increased? I think not , because who plays only for renown? I could care less if i get 100k 300k renown a day or 10k as long as there were fun challenging fights thats what matters, the fun experience not renown gained.

Some one mentioned that we should add like starter bags for new accaunts every 5 or 10 levels you can open it and you get some gold? some green talismans and stat/armor potions.
As we know bolstering is good,but only good if you got talismans and up to date gear. For new players it kinda hard to know where what is and to get the cash for potions and talismans

Posted: **Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:10 pm**

rrrutsss wrote: Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:35 am Everyones like increase renown on this increase renown on that, but what will it change? Will new players come and old players return because kill renown or bo cap renown has been increased? I think not , because who plays only for renown? I could care less if i get 100k 300k renown a day or 10k as long as there were fun challenging fights thats what matters, the fun experience not renown gained.

Some one mentioned that we should add like starter bags for new accaunts every 5 or 10 levels you can open it and you get some gold? some green talismans and stat/armor potions.
As we know bolstering is good,but only good if you got talismans and up to date gear. For new players it kinda hard to know where what is and to get the cash for potions and talismans

Who cares? Well kinda give big advantage when you rank 80+ in bis. It's not like max gear is vanquisher like before. I got my wp up to almost rank 85 been bis since am rank 80 I dont play to get gear/renown i play for the fun. It's alot more fun when you got your build down instead of forcing you to play a certain way for months just because they nerf the renown. I like equality and before the leveling process was perfect would be quick to get rank 65-70 and longer after that. If it was me i would make it way faster to get rank 70 and longer after that soo people can equip vanq/invader fast and make it a goal to get sov.

Posted: **Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:44 pm**

Yoluigi
Even if all chars started whit 80RR they still need tons of crests until they get bis, so increasimg rr gain or levels wont change anything. You will be 80rr whit invader gear as few of mine chars are.

Posted: **Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:55 pm**

The issue with RoR is that the more organised it gets, the worse it gets. Warband on warband and 6v6 is just an endless slog, like swimming through quicksand.

Besides, the game isn't fun to play when you're on the losing side.

Grossly overtuned defenses are at the root of this.

Posted: **Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:19 pm**

rrrutsss wrote: Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:44 pm Yoluigi
Even if all chars started whit 80RR they still need tons of crests until they get bis, so increasimg rr gain or levels wont change anything. You will be 80rr whit invader gear as few of mine chars are.

rank 40 vs rank 80 give 40 more renown points that's massive. The original post was about motivating people going around other bo. Most people i used to play with stopped playing because of the 1 bo zerg. It's boring and killing the game.

Posted: **Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:22 pm**

I voted No, I have no issue with the BO system as is nor the RR gained or the supply system.

Posted: **Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:55 pm**

Secrets wrote: Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:20 am
Vegetaplays wrote: Fri Jun 03, 2022 12:42 am They should just revert all the renown nerfs, beforehand even last year you would get about 30k per keep attack, now atmost its 15k or so. Small scale whether it be solo,duo,trio doesn't feel super rewarding, at the most you'll get 16k for a solo kill, but back then 16k for a solo kill seemed normal.
That code hasn't really been touched in over 2 years. There's only been renown buffs.

The difference is every day isn't x2 anymore due to server instability.

Must have been some changes somewhere.. since I started (possibly my memory is wrong)..

Nerfs:

lowered fort, keep and zonelock renown (I recon by around 50%, 5-15k lost per lock)

removed BO defense ticks (random 1-2k)

Linked AAO to boxes and BO caps and 50% reduction in base renown (AAO being linked is probably on avg a slow down as dominating side will run more

Less 2x days (seems like 2-4days a year)

No renown from oil kills

Less frequent cities and better match making (for me, used to do 1 almost everyday with 80% winrate, now it's a couple every month with below 50% winrate, others might be better off, but for me probably 30k less a day)

Overall fewer and less intense/resistant fights (e.g. more zerging linked to reduced rewards for losers or increased for winners)

Less "free" renown pots (while they are easier to obtain they now cost you in main currency)

I don't know if kill renown got reduced as well, but if it did you got that as well.

Buffs..

getting top in a scenarios gives 300 or so (but I think that was on the back of scenario baseline renown nerf, so overall probably lower as well)

This is from the top of my head and could be wrong or missing your buffs, but does personally feel harder to get to 70 now than 80 before

Posted: **Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:42 pm**

rrrutsss wrote: Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:35 am Everyones like increase renown on this increase renown on that, but what will it change? Will new players come and old players return because kill renown or bo cap renown has been increased? I think not , because who plays only for renown? I could care less if i get 100k 300k renown a day or 10k as long as there were fun challenging fights thats what matters, the fun experience not renown gained.

Some one mentioned that we should add like starter bags for new accaunts every 5 or 10 levels you can open it and you get some gold? some green talismans and stat/armor potions.
As we know bolstering is good,but only good if you got talismans and up to date gear. For new players it kinda hard to know where what is and to get the cash for potions and talismans

Okay so you have characters at high RR. For new players, as a guy trying to get a tank through 50 who gets two shot because everyone is in sov. Let me tell you I would absolutely be encouraged.

I've said it before, but the losing side renown gains need to be buffed. Not solo kills, I am talking you get 0 points in a scenario losses, smashed at every BO frustrating losses. These are the losses that cause people to rage quit after banging your head against a premade and getting a paltry 1k xp in a scenario. Imagine how many people log one scenario like this and quit for the night or permanently. I love the game and I have.

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