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Re: Rune of Battle abuse 3/24/2025

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:51 pm
by Brew
MetaFR wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:37 pm
Brew wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 12:04 am Yet not 1 single post about WBs stacking WLs using 1 button.
because it's actually more than 1.
dmg buff
feline grace
speed buff
pounce
echoing roar
there goes your 1 button ; spinning.
then goes more button after, bout are buzy running usually already ;-)

see that's more than one button.
Rune of battle requires more than just Rune of Battle

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Renown Potion
Armor Potion
Liniment - or- Food
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Target Witch Hunter
Rune of Battle
Resurrect Witch Hunter
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Run to Warcamp
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Join any random WB
Smash face on W key
Whirling Axe
Eat my pudding with spoon
Mom says forks are dangerous
Go to bed
Wake up
Oatmeal for breakfast
Mom says I cant hurt myself with soft food

Also more buttons after but theyre usually running ;)

Re: Rune of Battle abuse 3/24/2025

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:54 pm
by Sinisterror
Pahakukka wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:44 pm
Sinisterror wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:07 pm
Ruin wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 1:38 pm

It's a skill, see no reason why not?
It should, as should Witchbrew & Leonine Frenzy. Le not critting is kind of crazy since its 13pts Pet skill and pet is the Crit mechanic for Wl. Make Riposte crit again like in Aor + Crit tactics effected riposte as well.
Just commenting the riposte thing. Please no. It was ridoculous already when riposte got dmg buff from choppamechanic. Could kill ppl with only turning your character right way.

I think none of these passive dmg abilities should be super strong, just some ittle additional extra. Otherwise we have builds that play themself, and skillfull gameplay is left unrewarded.

Its not too long ago when you had to actively try not to attack mdps, instead just dot and kite, no matter the class. Example can be seen in the beginning here at 1:56
https://youtu.be/r1VfKJ7sQLc?si=kw6r1L_L-OBJOAF2

This was a bit off topic, just wanted to mention it.
It was super strong when choppa/slayer mechanic affected it and the wpn procs 360 became 540 or so. But in Aor choppa/slayer mechanic didnt affect riposte,it had 1s icd and crit is better balanced than just straight up 50% Buff which it was in RoR. But slayer has 10-90% Crit dmg increase tactic which was obvious choice in Aor but not in RoR because of All around critical dmg nerfs. Same for choppa 25% Crit dmg Tactic.

Btw because some misunderstanding or decision choice when they nerfed all proc dmg and +% Increase tactics/Class mechanics but only wpn procs needed this nerf imo. 360 wpn dmg proc in aor that was absolute max dmg that it could do. But proc dmg like Wp/Dok Prayers/kiss/bullets etc was affected by Divine Fury/Taste of blood/flanking and those sorts of things

Re: Rune of Battle abuse 3/24/2025

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:57 pm
by normanis
emiliorv wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:13 pm
normanis wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:46 pm need try offc stealth witch with devour essence
p.s i though gms disabled from stealth capture flag or use oil. because of ppl behaviour
i thought anydamage from stealth should unstealth u. byt that why there is ppl who will always find way to find new ''work as intend'' and put it not into bugtracker.
In this case, the damage is tied to the caster (runepriest) => the wh dont make dmg itself.
so u whnat to say that similar abilities kobs on your guard (not exact kobs on your guard byt similar), damage potion (worked similar as on your guard) will not break your stealth? because u dont deal damage byt abilitie/potion?
isnt it makes wh just sit in stealth and dont get damaged/run out from ap. and ppl who are hited think wtf is killing me? damage from noowhere.

Re: Rune of Battle abuse 3/24/2025

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 5:01 pm
by normanis
Sinisterror wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:54 pm
Pahakukka wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:44 pm
Sinisterror wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:07 pm

It should, as should Witchbrew & Leonine Frenzy. Le not critting is kind of crazy since its 13pts Pet skill and pet is the Crit mechanic for Wl. Make Riposte crit again like in Aor + Crit tactics effected riposte as well.
Just commenting the riposte thing. Please no. It was ridoculous already when riposte got dmg buff from choppamechanic. Could kill ppl with only turning your character right way.

I think none of these passive dmg abilities should be super strong, just some ittle additional extra. Otherwise we have builds that play themself, and skillfull gameplay is left unrewarded.

Its not too long ago when you had to actively try not to attack mdps, instead just dot and kite, no matter the class. Example can be seen in the beginning here at 1:56
https://youtu.be/r1VfKJ7sQLc?si=kw6r1L_L-OBJOAF2

This was a bit off topic, just wanted to mention it.
It was super strong when choppa/slayer mechanic affected it and the wpn procs 360 became 540 or so. But in Aor choppa/slayer mechanic didnt affect riposte,it had 1s icd and crit is better balanced than just straight up 50% Buff which it was in RoR. But slayer has 10-90% Crit dmg increase tactic which was obvious choice in Aor but not in RoR because of All around critical dmg nerfs. Same for choppa 25% Crit dmg Tactic.

Btw because some misunderstanding or decision choice when they nerfed all proc dmg and +% Increase tactics/Class mechanics but only wpn procs needed this nerf imo. 360 wpn dmg proc in aor that was absolute max dmg that it could do. But proc dmg like Wp/Dok Prayers/kiss/bullets etc was affected by Divine Fury/Taste of blood/flanking and those sorts of things
barakudax comes in my mind with solo riposte, i think he stoped play after riposte nerf.

Re: Rune of Battle abuse 3/24/2025

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 5:04 pm
by normanis
Brew wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:51 pm
MetaFR wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:37 pm
Brew wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 12:04 am Yet not 1 single post about WBs stacking WLs using 1 button.
Rune of battle requires more than just Rune of Battle

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forks are really dangerous because 1 hit 4 holes.

Re: Rune of Battle abuse 3/24/2025

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 5:12 pm
by Schett
Just get more initiative to detect the WH

It's funny how this becomes a discussion when TUP does it, but when BT have done it for years no one have cared about it.
Or maybe ppl didn't understand it was BT killing them in the wb fights?

Re: Rune of Battle abuse 3/24/2025

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 5:15 pm
by emiliorv
Schett wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 5:12 pm Just get more initiative to detect the WH or counter with Magus pet tactic that detect stealth
Much better counter is a blob of chosens stacking bane shield.

Re: Rune of Battle abuse 3/24/2025

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 5:18 pm
by normanis
Schett wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 5:12 pm Just get more initiative to detect the WH

It's funny how this becomes a discussion when TUP does it, but when BT have done it for years no one have cared about it.
Or maybe ppl didn't understand it was BT killing them in the wb fights?
sad that is only 1 usfulness of wh to bring it to wb. :(

Re: Rune of Battle abuse 3/24/2025

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 5:19 pm
by normanis
emiliorv wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 5:15 pm
Schett wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 5:12 pm Just get more initiative to detect the WH or counter with Magus pet tactic that detect stealth
Much better counter is a blob of chosens stacking bane shield.
kill wh and all his rune priests :)

Re: Rune of Battle abuse 3/24/2025

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:33 pm
by crystl32
I like this stuff. Nice change to boring metas :D