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Re: current rvr meta
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:20 pm
by Abolition
boog wrote:You get, if I'm not mistaken, 4k renown for a keep defense tick.
I'm confused and doubting myself here.
Is it 400, or 4000 renown for taking and defending keeps? Both attacking and defending have the same value, don't they?
Re: current rvr meta
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:21 pm
by boog
I agree multi accounts could be an issue; however, I am hoping that that population represents a small percentage of the players who play RoR. Once again, I am HOPING. Either way it will deter those who do not have multi accounts or either force them to create another. I personally am to lazy to do that lol. Either way it could help and if it turns out not to then another measure will have to be taken obviously.
Re: current rvr meta
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:22 pm
by dkabib
Abolition wrote:boog wrote:You get, if I'm not mistaken, 4k renown for a keep defense tick.
I'm confused and doubting myself here.
Is it 400, or 4000 renown for taking and defending keeps? Both attacking and defending have the same value, don't they?
400
Re: current rvr meta
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:23 pm
by Abolition
boog wrote:I agree multi accounts could be an issue; however, I am hoping that that population represents a small percentage of the players who play RoR. Once again, I am HOPING. Either way it will deter those who do not have multi accounts or either force them to create another. I personally am to lazy to do that lol. Either way it could help and if it turns out not to then another measure will have to be taken obviously.
I second the "too lazy" to making a second account.
Re: current rvr meta
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:24 pm
by boog
Abolition wrote:boog wrote:You get, if I'm not mistaken, 4k renown for a keep defense tick.
I'm confused and doubting myself here.
Is it 400, or 4000 renown for taking and defending keeps? Both attacking and defending have the same value, don't they?
I believe you get 6k for capturing a keep and 4k for keep defense. I could be mistaken but those are the numbers that are cemented in my head currently for ORvR rewards.
Next time I take part in one I will be sure to note the proper reward unless some1 else is certain it is one or the other.
Re: current rvr meta
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:25 pm
by bloodi
Abolition wrote:I'm confused and doubting myself here.
Is it 400, or 4000 renown for taking and defending keeps? Both attacking and defending have the same value, don't they?
400 for the defense tick, 800 for taking a keep.
DEfending usually was more profitable not only kills but because of the multiple defense ticks.
However attacking gave you loot on top of the rp/xp/inf, that was the offset, there always was people willing to attack because of the loot.
Till we convince the developers here to abandon their ridiculous position on rvr gear and tokens, defense will be always be much better.
Re: current rvr meta
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:25 pm
by Vigfuss
During server primetime (EU Evening/latenight) there are often 4 or more guild groups per realm. Some are strictly 6 man and others are more than 12.
Keeps do get camped, usually Order at Mandreds, or Desto at the elf Keep, due to the warcamp locations. But for the most part the people who camp are soloers or pug warband members, until a door is down.
Re: current rvr meta
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:27 pm
by Abolition
boog wrote:
I believe you get 6k for capturing a keep and 4k for keep defense. I could be mistaken but those are the numbers that are cemented in my head currently for ORvR rewards.
Next time I take part in one I will be sure to note the proper reward unless some1 else is certain it is one or the other.
I am 99% sure it is as follows (of course I could be wrong):
Keep defence tick when door resets: 400rp
Keep capture tick: 400rp, 800rp or 1200rp depending on factors that I am not entirely sure about (contribution in the RVR lake capturing BOs/kills etc, how strong the keep defence was).
Re: current rvr meta
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:28 pm
by theOdinS0n
We need a buff like AAO that increases renown gained from kills that grows for every X amount of time you're logged in and actually fighting in RVR.
You can't lock people out due to multiple accounts so I think we could prevent xrealming by giving them an incentive for continuing to not switch sides. Everyone switches because they think they can get a better reward on their other toons, but I'm not in favor of giving the losers of RVR a reward because it encourages people to give up quicker.
Re: current rvr meta
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:30 pm
by thullonse
again, this isnt abou the keep def tick its about the fact that both sides are abusing the fact that kill while defending a keep is giving about 400% more RR so people are just bunkering in their keep