Return of Reckoning

Ok I just posted the entire patch log. from 1.0 - 1.4.8 point exactly where this fix is outside of hearsay? I'm giving my experience from live and patch notes. I see no one else providing anything factual to this thread.

Mavella wrote:Ok I just posted the entire patch log. from 1.0 - 1.4.8 point exactly where this fix is outside of hearsay? I'm giving my experience from live and patch notes. I see no one else providing anything factual to this thread.

What about the vid that shows a wh with FP up snap shotting a squig and not snaring it?

Mavella wrote:Ok I just posted the entire patch log. from 1.0 - 1.4.8 point exactly where this fix is outside of hearsay? I'm giving my experience from live and patch notes. I see no one else providing anything factual to this thread.

No, what you did is link the patch log and claim that unless someone finds it there, you want it reverted.

But sadly, the ones who needs proof working like you say, its you.

So unless you have tangible evidence that shows that FP should affect things like snap shot, all you can do is propose a balance change.

Fp never affected throw dagger/snap shot.

But, on live SW/SH self punt didn't trigger if you had snare immunity. As we stay selfpunt how it is now, we should buff fp to affect daggers, otherwise, we should rework selfpunt on live version.

Toldavf wrote:
What about the vid that shows a wh with FP up snap shotting a squig and not snaring it?

Nothing in that video does damage to him that would be snapshot. He gets hit for 1k and 300ish then gluebomb ticks for 14s with a 31 crit in there. Snap shot has to do damage to snare, plain and simple. It does look like a snapshot projectile was flying at him but the way the glue bomb applied as the moment of impact of that projectile make it seem like that was what hit him given the damage ticks and green swirl at the feet. Maybe he dodged the snapshot projectile? I don't know. The squig did have Run away! and RUN AWAY procced so he may have ran out of snapshot range fairly quickly.

Even the fact he used FP at that distance meant he EXPECTED it to proc his snare. Why else would he be using FP at 30+ feet out? I played solo 99% of the time I knew that as my only way to catch a decent kiter with my WH if a gap was created outside of lucky odjira procs. Not to mention spamming snapshot in hopes of getting at their back without the aid of FP was just asking to give them free odjira procs.

bloodi wrote:No, what you did is link the patch log and claim that unless someone finds it there, you want it reverted.

But sadly, the ones who needs proof working like you say, its you.

So unless you have tangible evidence that shows that FP should affect things like snap shot, all you can do is propose a balance change.

No what I did was post the patch log as well as stated that I searched through all the logs from 1.4.0 - 1.4.8(During the time I played live and after) and stated I found no mention of changes to "feinted positioning" or "snapshot" in any of it.I fully admit this could be a change that took place after I quit but find no mention of it anywhere outside of hearsay on this forum.

How exactly do you propose I find mention of a change that never occurred and was thus never documented in patch notes?

Mavella wrote:How exactly do you propose I find mention of a change that never occurred and was thus never documented in patch notes?

The point is that you dont need to find the change, you need to find proof that it worked like you said.

bloodi wrote:

Mavella wrote:How exactly do you propose I find mention of a change that never occurred and was thus never documented in patch notes?

The point is that you dont need to find the change, you need to find proof that it worked like you said.

No the point is it was changed on HEARSAY. No one provided proof that it wasn't supposed to snare with FP up it was just changed. I'm providing patch notes that never make any mention of this change and hundreds of hours of personal experience with the ins and outs of both WE and WH. People are making claims that it was changed "late in the game". I looked through all the patch notes to show that, no, that was in fact not the case.

Mavella wrote:No the point is it was changed on HEARSAY. No one provided proof that it wasn't supposed to snare with FP up it was just changed. I'm providing patch notes that never make any mention of this change and hundreds of hours of personal experience with the ins and outs of both WE and WH. People are making claims that it was changed "late in the game". I looked through all the patch notes to show that, no, that was in fact not the case.

Proof or get the **** out, i cant explain it to you more clearly, you can do all the mental gymnastics you want.

if you want it changed, post either proof of it working like you say or propose a change of balance.

If you are unable to either provide proof or an argument as to why balance would be improved if it was changed, please shut the **** up.

bloodi wrote:

Mavella wrote:No the point is it was changed on HEARSAY. No one provided proof that it wasn't supposed to snare with FP up it was just changed. I'm providing patch notes that never make any mention of this change and hundreds of hours of personal experience with the ins and outs of both WE and WH. People are making claims that it was changed "late in the game". I looked through all the patch notes to show that, no, that was in fact not the case.

Proof or get the **** out, i cant explain it to you more clearly, you can do all the mental gymnastics you want.

if you want it changed, post either proof of it working like you say or propose a change of balance.

If you are unable to either provide proof or an argument as to why balance would be improved if it was changed, please shut the **** up.

Why does he have to prove his position and you don't. Like he said, it was never documented anywhere that it was changed. How can you prove that it was?

The reason he has to prove his position is because I drew the line here, to say this is officially the point at which I stop flip flopping between implementations based on ANYONE'S word until someone puts down proof.