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Re: Kotbs Emperor's Champion no Morale Cost
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 2:48 am
by Penril
Tell me how much wounds does the KotBS gain with EC.
Tell me how much wounds does a BO gain (and heals himself) with Da Toughest proc.
Feel dumb.
Re: Kotbs Emperor's Champion no Morale Cost
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:15 am
by Valnak
TenTonHammer wrote:Nishka wrote:KOTBS already got a few nerfs. Perseverance don't give ap when holding the line, emperor's champion morale no longer heals. I'm sure more will come in the future, so what's the whine about?
20% grp crit
Very little can beat this utility here.
Re: Kotbs Emperor's Champion no Morale Cost
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:09 am
by Nishka
Valnak wrote:Very little can beat this utility here.
I agree that kotbs requires changes in these areas. But wounds adding effect from ec was never a problem. This nerf neither affects kotbs utility, no his damage. This was totally uncalled.
Re: Kotbs Emperor's Champion no Morale Cost
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:40 pm
by Penril
Read the tooltip for Da Toughest and notice the part where it says "you will be healed for the amount increased".
Read the tooltip for Emperor's Champion and notice that it doesn't say the KotBS will be healed by the amount increased.
While you are there, pay close attention to the fact that EC increases the KotBS wounds by around 192, while Da Toughest increases the BO's wounds for around 40 (i don't use Da Toughest! so i don't remember the exact value).
Re: Kotbs Emperor's Champion no Morale Cost
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 2:13 pm
by Bozzax
No one uses Da Toughest
Re: Kotbs Emperor's Champion no Morale Cost
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 2:42 pm
by Nishka
Yay, looks like order got it's own forum troll! They were only destros before
On topic: can Azarael confirm that removing the healing part from m2 kotbs morale was an intended nerf?
Re: Kotbs Emperor's Champion no Morale Cost
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 2:46 pm
by Azarael
Not an intended nerf.
Re: Kotbs Emperor's Champion no Morale Cost
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 2:48 pm
by Coryphaus
Azarael wrote:Not an intended nerf.
was riposte return dmg also not scaling with rage an unintended nerf?
Re: Kotbs Emperor's Champion no Morale Cost
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 2:49 pm
by Azarael
The relevant report is closed, so if that's still a problem there's a bug in the combat manager.
Re: Kotbs Emperor's Champion no Morale Cost
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:07 pm
by Tesq
it dont requrie this nerf, self utlity should not be subject to nerf atm, only group utility.
-moral 2 on tank is important cos it's the place where you use raze.
-kobs dont have the same base damage as chosen
-it's 30 sec duration 1 min CD skill which make it impossible to use 100% of the time
-you may also want to use other morals other than that.
-if something need a nerf is runfang and not this one.
-it's pretty normal moral stack with self buff, it's not that tactic stack with itself or moral stack with morals.