Return of Reckoning

Sizer wrote:Which one is simpler... buff 12 classes or nerf 4

Actually buffing 12 classes should be simpler, since the risk of making the game unplayable is way, way lower.

I just done a long in depth post, that for some reason got lost when posting. but short of it was.

Test the following changes:

change grp cleanse tactic so that it increases the cooldown of cleanse to 10secs when slotted.
half regen on books and triple regen on smite/lash.

this will stop easymode backline cleanse healbots.
force the wp towards the frontline where they belong.

p.s not sure if the proposed changes are currently doable?

Wanna nerf - propose a reasonable one. Really, people should stop posting non-sense about the front line healers, one should be a tank or be guarded to survive. Also armor doesn't help with magic damage, control abilities and debuffs.

Other healers have better regen and can increase it further. Just calculate time to regen enough resource for one aoe heal. So, adjusting cast times and may be cleanse change seems to be the best things to try.

Azarael wrote:

Vigfuss wrote:BTW is there still a plan in place to use the balance changes forum?

Yes. We're locking it until Tier 4. No thread outside of the balance forum will be acted upon.

Thanks Azarael, good to know!

Sizer wrote: Am/shaman... are already well designed classes.

Oh please. Unless you're dps spec the whole 'damage dealing healer' falls flat on its face because of attribute distribution. Heals on allies can't be disrupted, they're just small heals. If you've ever played a healing shaman or AM you'd know that trying to throw DoTs on anybody with your full class mechanic for damage is a waste of a GCD. The class mechanic is completely ignored.

yet i hear that shams and ams are good in 6v6 where their HoTs are good b/c of the low(er) ttk

Espically the former once triple shatter is addressed?


That too both are really good in 1-3-2?

TenTonHammer wrote:yet i hear that shams and ams are good in 6v6 where their HoTs are good b/c of the low(er) ttk

Espically the former once triple shatter is addressed?


That too both are really good in 1-3-2?

He said the classes were fine. Not that Kotbs wasnt broken. There is a difference. Just like with AM there is a high skill cap but they have a place in a 6 man. We used one on live to great effect using moral pump on tanks for quick m4 and then WH for Excom 45 secs into the fight. The problem here is WP/Dok not the other 4 classes.

This article is about the warrior type. For the novel, see Warrior Priest (Novel).

A Warrior Priest of Sigmar.

Warrior Priests of Sigmar are zealous followers of the warrior god Sigmar, and loyal members of the Cult of Sigmar. The Cult itself demands that its followers must fight all forms of evil with strength of arm as well as with faith, and as a result many Warrior Priests march alongside the armies of The Empire. On the battlefield they act as beacons of morale, bringing hope, restoring faith and inspiring Men to fight on against all odds.

It is the duty of the Warrior Priests to hunt down the fell worshippers of Chaos, the practioners of malign sorcery, and the Undead and their twisted masters. They carry mighty warhammers to aid them in such tasks and enjoy the blessings of their patron Sigmar, in the form of Divine Magic.

A very senior warrior priest is known as an Arch Lector, and are often seen leading large armies.

from here:http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Warrior_Priest

So, may I ask, how is WARRIOR PRIEST/DISCIPLE of KHAINE, as it pertains to this server a WARRIOR with a book/chalice?

Their intent was to be melee healers, in the flick of the fight, as fuel for their healing, NOT stand back and heal bots.
Shows what happens when we allow Warhammer Lore subversion in a game that is all about Warhammer Lore.

Yes the solution to every problem in WAR is to simply stick with the lore. That seems reasonable

zanthorn wrote:This article is about the warrior type. For the novel, see Warrior Priest (Novel).

A Warrior Priest of Sigmar.

Warrior Priests of Sigmar are zealous followers of the warrior god Sigmar, and loyal members of the Cult of Sigmar. The Cult itself demands that its followers must fight all forms of evil with strength of arm as well as with faith, and as a result many Warrior Priests march alongside the armies of The Empire. On the battlefield they act as beacons of morale, bringing hope, restoring faith and inspiring Men to fight on against all odds.

It is the duty of the Warrior Priests to hunt down the fell worshippers of Chaos, the practioners of malign sorcery, and the Undead and their twisted masters. They carry mighty warhammers to aid them in such tasks and enjoy the blessings of their patron Sigmar, in the form of Divine Magic.

A very senior warrior priest is known as an Arch Lector, and are often seen leading large armies.

from here:http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Warrior_Priest

So, may I ask, how is WARRIOR PRIEST/DISCIPLE of KHAINE, as it pertains to this server a WARRIOR with a book/chalice?

Their intent was to be melee healers, in the flick of the fight, as fuel for their healing, NOT stand back and heal bots.
Shows what happens when we allow Warhammer Lore subversion in a game that is all about Warhammer Lore.

It's a game

You want to be strict to the cannon play table top.