Return of Reckoning

choppa main problems all cames from aoe mastery choppa fasta is meaningless i was think to make a proposal... but before that as it stand now there is any reason i dont know to spec choppa fasta instead bring a BO?

why not make no more helpin 5 sec cd or even without cd ? all choppa masteries-finishers have very long cd compared to slayer. slayer with tactic can nonstop spam finishers ( not all byt spellbreaker)

Mah st finisher are fine, choopa have lots and argumentaly some are better in st spec or rather they are fine, slayer is Op in his aoe stuff

Outgoing Healdbuff it got mirrored from wl in place of old armor debuff. It mash nice with cd increase on healer if you dont have one you have the other plus bo + chopp can keep double heal debuff + cd increased alltogheter , it's another thing which indeed make BG heal debuff less in need instead or WE.
Regardless increase mid mast also increase proc dmg from hurting time.

Tesq wrote:Mah st finisher are fine, choopa have lots and argumentaly some are better in st spec or rather they are fine, slayer is Op in his aoe stuff

Outgoing Healdbuff it got mirrored from wl in place of old armor debuff. It mash nice with cd increase on healer if you dont have one you have the other plus bo + chopp can keep double heal debuff + cd increased alltogheter , it's another thing which indeed make BG heal debuff less in need instead or WE.
Regardless increase mid mast also increase proc dmg from hurting time.

im sorry but what heal debuff got black ork? because unless devs added something new i dont remember black orks having one at all

No, choppa have both heal debuff, bo have a CD increase st as chopa,or was an old skill really havent touch a BO in ages

Edit: yes is not in da face

The problem is the Mara. You can do anything with a Mara while a Choppa doesn't seem to have a clear role.

Slayer can do aoe melee in a way WL can't. I've done unlimited wild swings build (effective but boring), cookie-cutter dualwield ID and even my current Single target, 2h build still has excellent aoe in rvr.

Mara can do single target and aoe better than a Choppa and you do not even need to change spec, just change mutation.

Do any destro premades run double mara though? Not that I see many destro premades in NA, and Chopmaster doesnt count since rocks can only run double choppa for RP reasons, but I have seen Fusion, LoB (twelve cm unbuffed), and Lords of the Locker Room all run choppa+mara. So its not like choppas are losing slots to maras, unless you think double choppa should be the meta.

Not saying choppas dont need fixes, but its not like people will turn you away from a premade, will they? Could be totally wrong I guess

GodlessCrom wrote:Do any destro premades run double mara though? Not that I see many destro premades in NA, and Chopmaster doesnt count since rocks can only run double choppa for RP reasons, but I have seen Fusion, LoB (twelve cm unbuffed), and Lords of the Locker Room all run choppa+mara. So its not like choppas are losing slots to maras, unless you think double choppa should be the meta.

Not saying choppas dont need fixes, but its not like people will turn you away from a premade, will they? Could be totally wrong I guess

It was definatly a thing on live for sure though it could been becuase Mara was hilariously my broken on live with all it's bugs

Though let's be real here if destro premades could get away with double Mara and only 1 debuff type they would proably do it on a drop of a hat

Tesq wrote:Mah st finisher are fine, choopa have lots and argumentaly some are better in st spec or rather they are fine, slayer is Op in his aoe stuff

Outgoing Healdbuff it got mirrored from wl in place of old armor debuff. It mash nice with cd increase on healer if you dont have one you have the other plus bo + chopp can keep double heal debuff + cd increased alltogheter , it's another thing which indeed make BG heal debuff less in need instead or WE.
Regardless increase mid mast also increase proc dmg from hurting time.

Why would you ever take no more helpin on choppa and drop surviveabilty from furious choppin and at the end of the day run a 2h over. DW

when you can just bring soul killer, achive more effective ness due to triple wp debuff and let your choppa save rage for important stuff like try n hurt me

choppa is fine for ST. 2h could do with some love, as could it's aoe. it's in no way near as dire a spot as some people would have you think; just takes a skilled player to make it shine - and when it shines, oh boy does it shine.