Return of Reckoning

Foomy44 wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:04 am

Telen wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:21 am

roadkillrobin wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:01 am On the derailed topic, yes single target dps AM is completly out of wack atm.

Single target dps has hardly changed. Its aoe that has been added.

Double speed lazer tactic is a pretty big change for single target burst. My shammy's hits for 1000-1400 on plenty of targets after ele debuff, being able to double the speed of those ticks after loading them up with dots seems pretty effective.

Yeah that explains the insane burst that right out killed my DoK in 2 seconds. Add the amount of crazy Striketrough on AM aswell. Thanks for sharing the details.

roadkillrobin wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:56 am Something changed coz I see them being ran in premade groups and consistantly on the top of db/dmg scores for several days now.

Scoreboards fml

roadkillrobin wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:09 am Yeah that explains the insane burst that right out killed my DoK in 2 seconds. Add the amount of crazy Striketrough on AM aswell. Thanks for sharing the details.

Crazy strikethrough = 10%
A channel ticking for 400 aint killing a dok in 2s

Telen wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:10 am

roadkillrobin wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:09 am Yeah that explains the insane burst that right out killed my DoK in 2 seconds. Add the amount of crazy Striketrough on AM aswell. Thanks for sharing the details.

Crazy strikethrough = 10%

It's 15 in 1 tactic, 25 if you run both.
Didn't they add ST as Renown aswell?

The lazers hits ny DoK for up to 1200 when they crit.

Foomy44 wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:04 am Double speed lazer tactic is a pretty big change for single target burst. My shammy's hits for 1000-1400 on plenty of targets after ele debuff, being able to double the speed of those ticks after loading them up with dots seems pretty effective.

If it not hitting within a gcd of BB BW and EWGx2 then its not part of your burst.

roadkillrobin wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:12 am It's 15 in 1 tactic, 25 if you run both.
Didn't they add ST as Renown aswell?

The lazers hits ny DoK for up to 1200 when they crit.

I do love theorycrafters going by the career builder. Dont do drugs kids.
Well your dok has the mitigation of a target dummy. Youre getting crit for that (not even then) when dmg buff in scs are up.

roadkillrobin wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:12 am

Telen wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:10 am

roadkillrobin wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:09 am Yeah that explains the insane burst that right out killed my DoK in 2 seconds. Add the amount of crazy Striketrough on AM aswell. Thanks for sharing the details.

Crazy strikethrough = 10%

It's 15 in 1 tactic, 25 if you run both.
Didn't they add ST as Renown aswell?

The lazers hits ny DoK for up to 1200 when they crit.

You don't have the tactic slots to run both strikethrough tactics.
Afaik strikthrough by renown was removed again.
They hit maybe 1200 with resist debuff and without detaunt. Detaunt and it won't kill you. Even with added dots.

Sulorie wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:20 am You don't have the tactic slots to run both strikethrough tactics.
Afaik strikthrough by renown was removed again.
They hit maybe 1200 with resist debuff and without detaunt. Detaunt and it won't kill you. Even with added dots.

You dont have the tactics to run both tactics let alone the 8 slots am apparently gets. 15% strikethrough was removed as was renown. You have 10% strikethrough tactic and thats it, yet theres still crazy strikethrough? Its almost as if people complain about things that arent there.

These people dont even play the game they just judge by a completely out of date career builder.

Telen wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:18 am

roadkillrobin wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:12 am It's 15 in 1 tactic, 25 if you run both.
Didn't they add ST as Renown aswell?

The lazers hits ny DoK for up to 1200 when they crit.

I do love theorycrafters going by the career builder. Dont do drugs kids.
Well your dok has the mitigation of a target dummy. Youre getting crit for that (not even then) when dmg buff in scs are up.

I have as much ressistant mitigration as I can possible stack without wasting it on spirit ressistance talismans. Given that I might not had a ressistence buff of some sort but trust me, i was about to detaunt and bang, dead.

Like I said, I havn't checked the changes to the class but when I have more issues with AM then I do with BW's atm and AM's are able to heal while BW's thake Backlash damage, then ballance is out of wack.

Telen wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:16 am

Foomy44 wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:48 am 4. It's really not? I honestly see more people complaining about how much healing they do now than the opposite, whether AMs or WP/DoK. I feel I pull decent enough numbers on my Shammy even when topping damage chart in pugs and I barely pay attention to my teammates HP most of the time.

Well that isnt true because Ive seen you in pug scenarios and you barely heal at all while your team wipes.
That you still judge anything on scenario scoreboards is telling. Changing Magus must be the greatest dd of all time. (hint. there is no dps or hps column)

It isn't true that I consider my healing ok when I'm barely paying attention to my teammates HP? Thanks for correcting me on what I think, apparently I was a bit confused. I can see why you want everyone here to ignore SC charts so much when they constantly look like this https://imgur.com/a/7wvXh9k