Return of Reckoning

ctosterhout wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:12 am

Sulorie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:00 am I will give you some numbers, that you can discuss about something with substance.

Damage on Dummy as reference: 663

Test 1: Base armor pen: 20,1 %

Damage on construct without any other buffs: 217 (445 mitigated)
Damage on construct with Bleeding Edge: 454 (208 mitigated)



Test 2: Pierce Armor WS buff increasing base armor pen to 28,3%

Damage on construct without any other buffs: 254 (406 mitigated)
Damage on construct with Bleeding Edge: 493 (169 mitigated)

Thank you.
Based on your numbers, it's obvious that PA buff and Bleeding Edge stack.
I'm curious how you ran your test, because when I did it, I saw no stacking.

For my test, I only looked at average auto attack damage.
I did 2 slices, then a puncture. Over and over again to keep the Bleeding Edge active.
For PA, I just did PA off cool down and slices until 2 frenzies, then a puncture. I saw no significant difference with PA buff.
I only did the test twice for each case. I guess I'll need to try more.

Just AW hit non-critical from front. Damage is always the same and only depends on additional buffs, like Bleeding Edge or Pierce Armor.

Thank you all for suffering me. Disregard everything I said.
I'm an idiot. I forgot to make sure the target was ailing to get the PA buff.

Sulorie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:00 am I will give you some numbers, that you can discuss about something with substance.

Damage on Dummy as reference: 663

Test 1: Base armor pen: 20,1 %

Damage on construct without any other buffs: 217 (445 mitigated)
Damage on construct with Bleeding Edge: 454 (208 mitigated)



Test 2: Pierce Armor WS buff increasing base armor pen to 28,3%

Damage on construct without any other buffs: 254 (406 mitigated)
Damage on construct with Bleeding Edge: 493 (169 mitigated)

So it seems to be awesome. From 217 without to 493 with PA+BE.

Ill help you all!! and save u guys some time:

It all stacks up:
PA
BE
900 ARMOR DEBUFF from dagger
SOV HELMET - 4% armor pen
ONSLAUGHT GLOVES - 5% armor pen

+ BE also increase dmg from fortress weapons as you can see below, also riposte procs.

Since BE, elixir of increase pain its completly waste in my opinion. Use caldron or shadows pls.. EOIP is trash together with BE

You boys keep brewing and messing around builds.

This is what I have currently on construct mob:
Non crit 877, I can push to 928 non crit if I want. but I lose too much crit for that.. so its not worth.

Krima is right. It's 50% arpen added to your total arpen, not sure why you keep insisting otherwise.

Thank god for your smartnes, you two. A bit to late so...most was allready said before, except one different opinion we had to clarifie. But thanks for your timesaving ...