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Re: Addressing the 90 min Elephant in the room.
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 3:28 pm
by Brew
Rydiak wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 3:20 pm
This change sounds like it is working as intended. Zerg-surfing to a city and then switching realms to defend said city with instant-queues because you are now on the underdog side doesn't exactly sound logical or fair. It almost sounds exploitive of the ORvR reward system. If you want to gear out your character on the other realm, why not just start the night already playing that character?
Except it isn't zerg surfing, xrealmers are the ones who push city. If order wants free pve rvr during NA time, they get IC for free, they have for months. If destro try to push, order prides (no city). So now peopel have to switch over to push altdorf. Noe they can't do city on the toons they want it on. They are putting in the effort to make city happen and then getting punished for taking the initiative.
Re: Addressing the 90 min Elephant in the room.
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 3:30 pm
by tazdingo
maybe the solution should instead be giving people who don't get a pop something else to do. maybe royals from city scenarios for a brief period. obv not 1:1
Re: Addressing the 90 min Elephant in the room.
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 3:36 pm
by Rydiak
Cross-realmers create zerg-surfing, and Order defending its forts doesn't sound to me like a good reason for why cross-realming should exist. If Destro wants cities, they should push for Altdorf instead of relying on the cross-realmers to push IC and then switching over to Destro toons to defend it. Logically it doesn't make sense. Pushing to attack the side you wish to defend on is equivalent to forcing a loss on the side you then want to profit on.
Re: Addressing the 90 min Elephant in the room.
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 3:37 pm
by Rydiak
tazdingo wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 3:30 pm
maybe the solution should instead be giving people who don't get a pop something else to do. maybe royals from city scenarios for a brief period. obv not 1:1
I would love it if the city SC rewarded Royals (or Royal Shards) instead of the usual Dominator/Oppressor.
Re: Addressing the 90 min Elephant in the room.
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 3:42 pm
by Naelar
poor cityloggers...
Re: Addressing the 90 min Elephant in the room.
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 3:49 pm
by Brew
Rydiak wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 3:36 pm
Cross-realmers create zerg-surfing, and Order defending its forts doesn't sound to me like a good reason for why cross-realming should exist. If Destro wants cities, they should push for Altdorf instead of relying on the cross-realmers to push IC and then switching over to Destro toons to defend it. Logically it doesn't make sense. Pushing to attack the side you wish to defend on is equivalent to forcing a loss on the side you then want to profit on.
This is a private server with limited population. Destro cannot push without xrealmers (which are the majority of players who keep the server going ) Nobody is "defending" or "attacking" . Its creating cities.
Re: Addressing the 90 min Elephant in the room.
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 3:49 pm
by Naelar
Qorth wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 2:03 pm
5 city instances between 12 and 1am est seems on par with usual. maybe i'm missing something
You're not. It's just a couple of ppl whining because they can't push a city on one side, then swap to the other to defend it when it pops.
Re: Addressing the 90 min Elephant in the room.
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 3:52 pm
by Mikler
Naelar wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 3:49 pm
Qorth wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 2:03 pm
5 city instances between 12 and 1am est seems on par with usual. maybe i'm missing something
You're not. It's just a couple of ppl whining because they can't push a city on one side, then swap to the other to defend it when it pops.
No one is being harmed by people who did this - in fact it was actually balancing the population.
Re: Addressing the 90 min Elephant in the room.
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 3:54 pm
by Mikler
Naelar wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 3:42 pm
poor cityloggers...
City loggers aren't affected by this change - since they only logged on to city and were not locked out on either side.
Re: Addressing the 90 min Elephant in the room.
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 3:58 pm
by Greenbeast
Brew wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 3:49 pm
Rydiak wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 3:36 pm
Cross-realmers create zerg-surfing, and Order defending its forts doesn't sound to me like a good reason for why cross-realming should exist. If Destro wants cities, they should push for Altdorf instead of relying on the cross-realmers to push IC and then switching over to Destro toons to defend it. Logically it doesn't make sense. Pushing to attack the side you wish to defend on is equivalent to forcing a loss on the side you then want to profit on.
This is a private server with limited population. Destro cannot push without xrealmers (which are the majority of players who keep the server going ) Nobody is "defending" or "attacking" . Its creating cities.
Well since FMJ re-rolled order...yes, EU-Destro push to cities only due to help of x-realmers!
Thanks Tzeentch we have them here, the all mighty x-realmers that keep this game alive!
FMJ, PnP, EWG, AoW, ABS...all these pesky x-realmers!
Maybe you're speaking about NA prime time, it's hard to tell in this hell of generalization.
