Return of Reckoning

lumpi33 wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:42 am And again:
Why should one class have a 14pt ability that does 4 things with one button press (movement speed, aoe damage, pull/gap closer, interrupt) and the other - also DPS class - get a similar ability for 14 points that does far less. Unless you can answer me that question your comment is just your opinion, nothing else.

You are aware that Choppa pull range already got reduced? Afaik around that time they got the tiny speed boost as compensation.
Snare them from range and the speed buff won't help them in order to get into range.
As rdps you don't need this boost, especially on a static pull.
Both skills interrupt at pull, why don't you mention this?
1 target at a time on a channel is inferior to multiple at once on longer range, if we just compare pulls.

When you use gtdc primarily for damage under all circumstances, you should get kicked from group.
As a DoT class engi/magus deal DMG while they pull you, no reason for such a short ability to cause damage, while Choppa would deal almost zero damage during channel.
It is not that hard to grasp, seriously.

lumpi33 wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:42 am Why should one class have a 14pt ability that does 4 things with one button press (movement speed, aoe damage, pull/gap closer, interrupt) and the other - also DPS class - get a similar ability for 14 points that does far less. Unless you can answer me that question your comment is just your opinion, nothing else.

Why should one class have a 5pt ability that bypass all defensive skills of 24 ppl (guard dmg included) with one button press and the other - also DPS class - get a far far worse ability for 5 points that does far far far less (restore 100 ap LMAO).
Unless you can answer me that question your comment is just your opinion, nothing else.

Sulorie wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:26 am

lumpi33 wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:42 am

When you use gtdc primarily for damage under all circumstances, you should get kicked from group.

basicly evry choppa use gtdc they need it or dont need it for (noone kick gruffrip from grp because he is grp leader ) . didnt seen magus pull for very long time from t3 times and when conq was higest gear. because choppas pull>magus rift. why u need magus if gtdc works better.
p.s there is very very rare magus who still use rift, byt they are on 1 hand fingers counted. after buffing gtdc rift become useles for melle blob. rift/magnet need range ( or cast on move buff) or need gtdc rework.

normanis wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:09 am . didnt seen magus pull for very long time from t3 times and when conq was higest gear. because choppas pull>magus rift. why u need magus if gtdc works better.

You dont see magus pull because the fun component was removed long time ago (same for magnet)

When rift was fun:

Click here to watch on YouTube

please trade choppa and slayer skill set for some days or make them exact mirror, please please i bet u.

emiliorv wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:46 am

normanis wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:09 am . didnt seen magus pull for very long time from t3 times and when conq was higest gear. because choppas pull>magus rift. why u need magus if gtdc works better.

You dont see magus pull because the fun component was removed long time ago (same for magnet)

Spoiler:

When rift was fun:

Click here to watch on YouTube

It was just a z-axis restriction, which applies to pounce and other pulls as well. Nowadays this old magus/engi pull would cause a lot more tears than Choppa pull, despite it being mirrored to both sides.

Sofong wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:00 am please trade choppa and slayer skill set for some days or make them exact mirror, please please i bet u.

Then order gets no cd increse, and destro gets rampage with mara aoe kd, if you wona get rampage you need to give order aoe kd and remove it from destro... as slayer main id trade rampage for aoe kd with 20 sec cd anyday... gona repeat this again if you hit tanks with dps class any dps class you are doing bad job... get to back line hit heals and cloth users and you will see how much aoe kd is beter than rampage...

Sulorie wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:38 am

emiliorv wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:46 am

normanis wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:09 am . didnt seen magus pull for very long time from t3 times and when conq was higest gear. because choppas pull>magus rift. why u need magus if gtdc works better.

You dont see magus pull because the fun component was removed long time ago (same for magnet)

Spoiler:

When rift was fun:

Click here to watch on YouTube

It was just a z-axis restriction, which applies to pounce and other pulls as well. Nowadays this old magus/engi pull would cause a lot more tears than Choppa pull, despite it being mirrored to both sides.

But was FUN...sometimes looks like ppl for get that games need to be fun....

emiliorv wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:22 am
But was FUN...sometimes looks like ppl for get that games need to be fun....

That is all good and nice but we shouldn't forget the fun of others on the receiving end
Most broken stuff is fun for someone.

E.g. blorc AOE KB, it's nice that it is used much less now and yet again many BO players rightfully deserve to get it fixed.

Sulorie wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:38 am

emiliorv wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:22 am
But was FUN...sometimes looks like ppl for get that games need to be fun....

Most broken stuff is fun for someone.

Z axis in rift/magnet wasnt "broken"...was one of those things that someone decided that needed "to be fixed"...now is a useless ability that no one use...