Re: Rampage - Need rework
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:16 pm
If Slayer is so bad why we see so many Baracuda movies solo kiling ALL classes ? or 2 or more ppl ? I dont see a Choppa movies ? No good Choppa on destro side ?
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Because Rampage is quite good for 1v1. No one is denying that. But game is not balanced around 1v1.wachlarz wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:16 pm If Slayer is so bad why we see so many Baracuda movies solo kiling ALL classes ? or 2 or more ppl ? I dont see a Choppa movies ? No good Choppa on destro side ?
Aurandilaz wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:38 pm Don't think Rampage is "Op", rather very strong. And becoming possibly too strong as more and more Slayers/Choppas finish Invader gear which allows them to reach +70-80 armor pen values - which with combination of Rampage will lead to future imbalances. Considering it's cheap cost at 5pts, possibly limit it to 50% strikethrough, not full 100%.
It isn't always used due to it's Rage cost, but when properly used and combined with very high armor pen values, can be pretty damn powerful.
Choppas keep playing without it, and do ok enough, Slayers also play similarly, even if at times Rampage allows them "easier" gameplay where they do not need to constantly reposition themselves due to enemy parry/block checks.
Rampage is bad in 6vs 6 or 24 vs 24 or zerg vs zerg ?:PPenril wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:28 pmBecause Rampage is quite good for 1v1. No one is denying that. But game is not balanced around 1v1.wachlarz wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:16 pm If Slayer is so bad why we see so many Baracuda movies solo kiling ALL classes ? or 2 or more ppl ? I dont see a Choppa movies ? No good Choppa on destro side ?
I am not mixing CD increase/decrease; unlike you i know perfectly well what i'm talking about. Yes, i said Da Boss (RIGHT tree) isn't that good anymore since the AoE snare nerf (Big Brawlin) which in turn makes a Da Brawler (LEFT tree) / Da Toughest (MIDDLE tree) spec at least more interesting than before. The CD INCREASER (which belongs to Da Toughest, middle tree) is called Not in da Face (NiDF), is different from WAAAGH + Mor choppin dem (group CD DECREASER on Da Boss, right tree) and it is a pretty decent one. It is not meant to counter Shatter Limbs, but to reduce the Slayer's AoE damage (no Flurry Spam). I see NiDF land often enough as to consider it a good CD increaser. And no, it doesn't get cleansed that often since WP can't cleanse it, and if you are focusing the Slayer then it will be buried under several other debuffs. You can just cover it yourself with WA/RidJ/NidF in your rotation if you want to.Tesq wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:43 pm Pen@
I don't understand some parts you seems to mix CD increase and decrease anyway you said it yourself boss mastery is not that good so no point jimp yourself. Yes CD decrease are good as much as increase tough Bo is st and can be cleansed easier than slayer aoe one. Also it need to land.... Again slayer will always land his CD increase, your Bo?? Mm don't think so especially if slayer is well loved by an in IB
I agree that some rework has done badder than better, (bo/sm) but that's because they had wrong aim. Game need active balance. Live was no perfect but between bring in line stuff and completely and utterly kills skills and masterys there is a lot of difference.
Did i say it is bad for those?wachlarz wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:48 pmRampage is bad in 6vs 6 or 24 vs 24 or zerg vs zerg ?:PPenril wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:28 pmBecause Rampage is quite good for 1v1. No one is denying that. But game is not balanced around 1v1.wachlarz wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:16 pm If Slayer is so bad why we see so many Baracuda movies solo kiling ALL classes ? or 2 or more ppl ? I dont see a Choppa movies ? No good Choppa on destro side ?
Because he uploads the victories he has against plebs who facetank him (while his Rampage is up), instead of: a) shattering it, b) detaunting and running away.wachlarz wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:16 pm If Slayer is so bad why we see so many Baracuda movies solo kiling ALL classes ? or 2 or more ppl ? I dont see a Choppa movies ? No good Choppa on destro side ?