Return of Reckoning

lyncher12 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:05 pm i'm happy you finally nerfed the biggest noob class in the game. theres nothing healthy about the game when its just engineers camping on walls of their keep. maybe they will have to learn to play now.

Or simply stop playing.

I guess the Dwarf Warband whiped to many destro WBs the last Wednesdays with their 8 Engis that needed to get their gear in pug cities, cause you take 1 max into a city if at all.

y ppl being so negative about this? it opens up more options on different builds.

sighy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:00 pm From my DoK testing 4TB and 3FS works out roughly the same, when damaged by choppa/mara. (granted i have a ton of Toughness) The major difference between the two is that TB evens the damage curve, where FS is dedicationg yourself tot he altar of RNG sometimes it work other times you get chonked a bit. I could see tanks going all the way on both of these and making Sorc/BWs very sad.

Because tb will work better at classes low on toughnes like choppa/slayer etc. Tanks dont need Tb

wachlarz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:21 pm

sighy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:00 pm From my DoK testing 4TB and 3FS works out roughly the same, when damaged by choppa/mara. (granted i have a ton of Toughness) The major difference between the two is that TB evens the damage curve, where FS is dedicationg yourself tot he altar of RNG sometimes it work other times you get chonked a bit. I could see tanks going all the way on both of these and making Sorc/BWs very sad.

Because tb will work better at classes low on toughnes like choppa/slayer etc. Tanks dont need Tb

yep especially good on dps classes.

ReturnOfReckoning wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:27 am
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Bug Fixes
- The damage bonus from turrets now works like the tooltips say, +4% damage per stack up to a maximum of +20%. Previously they gave +5% per stack, up to a maximum of +40%.


Bug Fixes
- The damage bonus from daemons now works like the tooltips say, +4% damage per stack up to a maximum of +20%. Previously they gave +5% per stack, up to a maximum of +40%.
...

This is not a Bugfix.

The Damage Bonus change was part of the career rework in July 2017 when the Turrets got their distinct buffs with Range increase (Gun Turret), Dot increase (Bombard), Aoe Cap and Dodge increase (Flame Turret).
After week one, the Turret bonuses were reduced as they were a little over the top.
The +40% on Damage made the class viable.
The Bug was that the tooltip never was updated to the 40%.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Berzar wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:26 pm AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Sounds like you are happy for your BW and Sorc...

Sofong wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:18 pm y ppl being so negative about this? it opens up more options on different builds.

Different builds to increase already long ttk

Did you think out, devs, impact on playerbase by introducing TB? Because my 1st thought was not "balancing" anything, but opposite. Chars at RR 80 get great buff to defence fighting against chars like 60 or below. Again, instead of keeping acceptable disparity forced by better gear and overall better gameplay through experience, now you just give flat defence boost to everyone above RR 80. Why make life even harder for fresh 40`s coming to tier top tier? You dont want them to stand chance against high rank players? I mean, with FS the extra spent points in it low players still got a RNG chance to compete with them, now the "roll chance is gone" crits which make supprise effect and cause kills now are gone totally.

Glorian wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:25 pm

ReturnOfReckoning wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:27 am
...
Bug Fixes
- The damage bonus from turrets now works like the tooltips say, +4% damage per stack up to a maximum of +20%. Previously they gave +5% per stack, up to a maximum of +40%.


Bug Fixes
- The damage bonus from daemons now works like the tooltips say, +4% damage per stack up to a maximum of +20%. Previously they gave +5% per stack, up to a maximum of +40%.
...

This is not a Bugfix.

The Damage Bonus change was part of the career rework in July 2017 when the Turrets got their distinct buffs with Range increase (Gun Turret), Dot increase (Bombard), Aoe Cap and Dodge increase (Flame Turret).
After week one, the Turret bonuses were reduced as they were a little over the top.
The +40% on Damage made the class viable.
The Bug was that the tooltip never was updated to the 40%.

Spoiler:

actually engi/magus changes from 2016 viewtopic.php?f=42&t=17514 why devs think ppl have short memory?

but yeah... i guess shield WP/DOK need more buffs