Return of Reckoning

The main issue for order is that there are premades but those premades dodge fight even harder than pugs or they abandon other pugs in scenario, i have 2 perfect clips if anyone wants to see how fast order renown premade runs back to warcamp hugging...

There are some groups that tries fight even when outgunned, Tercio and Retribution gave some good fights against our group (we r not abusing range meta).

And yes, boxes on kill drop is pretty harsh design for both side (killer and victim), killers will do anything possible to farm kills (including ignoring SC mechanic OR even trade killing because its still a box drop) and for victims because they will get farmed/chased... There should be a Quest with multiple options to complete, divided between RvR/SC, could be 10-20 kills OR 1-5 SC wins OR 10-20 SC participation (although this can be exploited via afk queue) OR 1-3 zone locks OR 3-6 BO locks for lets say 10-20 boxes of player choice.
On top of that the repeatable quest givers should be in all (or only elven) warcamps so the RvR is not disrupted by ppl wanting to go deliver quest...

JohnnyWayne wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:30 am There is nothing new about that. Does anyone know where the code for the ror killboard API can be found?

https://github.com/dalen/killboard

JohnnyWayne wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:30 am

Sulorie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:53 pm Punting you and killing you midair is the newest trend.

There is nothing new about that. Does anyone know where the code for the ror killboard API can be found?

Actual killboard code: https://github.com/dalen/killboard

GraphQL schema and web interface: https://production-api.waremu.com/graphql/

Devs have given permission for people to use GraphQL for their own queries.

Scenarios are won by who has more/better premades. Most of the better ones xrelam. The only reason this is such a nightmare is because many of those chose to prioritise getting their rings on destro so now there are more premades than pugs in scs and they are queueing 24/7 because the event is so taxing.

For months, pugging the weekend event on destro every friday meant <33% winrate because order had shitloads of premades out. Idk why people are crying now.

Xergon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:18 am
And yes, boxes on kill drop is pretty harsh design for both side (killer and victim), killers will do anything possible to farm kills (including ignoring SC mechanic OR even trade killing because its still a box drop) and for victims because they will get farmed/chased...

Funny, Ive met last EU night 6 man of quite famous order guild farming tier 1 scenarios.
But on the other hand, I dont see other way to force people leave warcamps or keeps to do pvp.

Edit, after a bit of search I found another order guild 6man farming mid scenarios.

And here i assumed farming boxes in t1 and t2 is too ruthless for a RoR vet. Of course it is not.

Cyrylius wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:53 am And here i assumed farming boxes in t1 and t2 is too ruthless for a RoR vet. Of course it is not.

If you don't have full premade (real premade, not some random guys from /5) it is indeed a good idea to participate in t1 slugfest.
And (unlike T4) there is a lot of deaths (and boxes) from each side. Compare that to T4 when there is no reason to even bother to queue sc the moment premades start to queue (yeah, sometimes fun sc happend, but usually its just wait till 11:00).

And they say xrealmers kill the pop

Sulorie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:53 pm Uhm, destro pugs were farmed by order rdps premades all day long in both elf event SC, when I did solo queue. That one side is exclusively farming the other side is anecdotal evidence and not true overall.

Look at the win/loss ratio of SC's. Look at the frequency of 500:0 victories. The data is there.

ShadowWar wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:11 pm

Sulorie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:53 pm Uhm, destro pugs were farmed by order rdps premades all day long in both elf event SC, when I did solo queue. That one side is exclusively farming the other side is anecdotal evidence and not true overall.

Look at the win/loss ratio of SC's. Look at the frequency of 500:0 victories. The data is there.

True, the data is there. Like for example the fact that this morning we had 5, 6 pages of nearly only Order wins with the occasional Destro win sprinkled in.

The point is: It depends too much on the time of day to say that either or is at an advantage.