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Re: Will rifters get punished?

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:24 pm
by Nishka
The doors and walls were impenetrable for any skills from both sides on live.

Re: Will rifters get punished?

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:40 pm
by Coryphaus
LoL 14 points wasted on a gimp spec for a single target RNG pull

Im more than ok with restricting GtTC around keeps but the thought that people would even want to spec it boggles me

Having said that if we are going to restrict people from pulling people off walls and stuff with rift and what not, come 40 will we also prevent "real" pulls from doing the same?

Re: Will rifters get punished?

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:52 pm
by Sulorie
Nishka wrote:The doors and walls were impenetrable for any skills from both sides on live.
Not all skills.

Re: Will rifters get punished?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:00 am
by Greatwarden
When you have multiple Choppas using GTTC, it really starts to feel like you're in a tumble dryer since you get pulled multiple times in different directions. There's not much you can do until the cycle stops since the uncontrollable movement makes any kind of melee attack pointless until you find out where you end up.

For a while, I thought it might be the the Zealot's 'Winds of Insanity', since that was the only pull/knockback that I knew that ignored immunities but it's definitely the Choppas.

Isn't GTTC in the same position that 'Inevitable Doom' lies in the Slayer trees? I'd definitely say that both abilities are potent in their own way.

Re: Will rifters get punished?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:07 am
by Renork
I feel for the devs on this one, the whines will only continue to grow.

Re: Will rifters get punished?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:14 am
by Coryphaus
Greatwarden wrote:
Isn't GTTC in the same position that 'Inevitable Doom' lies in the Slayer trees? I'd definitely say that both abilities are potent in their own way.


Click here to watch on YouTube

garbage rng ability on a trash tree

Re: Will rifters get punished?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:23 am
by Nishka
Explains why I haven't seen a single choppa with gttc on live ( I even had no idea choppa had any kind of pull)) but the're so many choppas with gttc in RoR. You destros were always the best... in using bugs :P

Re: Will rifters get punished?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:34 am
by Coryphaus
Its a single target RNG pull towards a squishy mdps and it does **** dmg, and half the time you could end up pulling a target to you that you dont want to pull like a tank and is furthermore rendred useless by the much better ST pull on mara

Furthermore it requires you to spec up the wreka tree, which is like specing up stabbin, or specing up monstro except worse cause wreka is a garbage, a waste of points with no good abilites in the tree that causes you to not get the much better abilities in hitta or savage and is basically a zergy build thats useless in any other situation

Every choppa using GtTC is one who isnt specing Hdbuff or the ap sustain ability or survivabilty ability with furious choppin

Probably never even touched the class on live

Mythic nerfed choppa's AoE tree to the ground back on live b/c of complaints to GtTC and sorc bombing while never touching slayers AoE or wispering winds, this made/forced choppa to be a ST mdps, any one trying to AoE with choppa is doing it wrong

Re: Will rifters get punished?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:50 am
by Tesq
Greatwarden wrote:When you have multiple Choppas using GTTC, it really starts to feel like you're in a tumble dryer since you get pulled multiple times in different directions. There's not much you can do until the cycle stops since the uncontrollable movement makes any kind of melee attack pointless until you find out where you end up.

For a while, I thought it might be the the Zealot's 'Winds of Insanity', since that was the only pull/knockback that I knew that ignored immunities but it's definitely the Choppas.

Isn't GTTC in the same position that 'Inevitable Doom' lies in the Slayer trees? I'd definitely say that both abilities are potent in their own way.
retaliation for 2 years of uncleanseable ID :P

On live that pull was a crap so maybe here will be differents.

Re: Will rifters get punished?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:57 am
by Bretin
right now the main problem is that they can fetch through doors. i don't even care about pulling ppl down from walls tbh. but pulling inside a keep w/o any chance for an escape is dumb. the pull itself is pretty ok but tbh you should consider adding a immunity on the choppa pull because right now it ignores it. not sure if this works as intented or if it never caused a immunity but it's kinda dumb to get pulled from magus over 75 feet, then throwed in by choppa 2-3 times in a row if you're unlucky. kd + collision and you basically can't escape.