Return of Reckoning

Nidwin wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:03 pm Good to see that WH/WE tactic properly fixed, even if I'm going to miss it in PVE, but …

I presume I'm not going to get a cookie for not abusing it in RvR?
Damn me but thanks anyway so if I feel to it I can use the tactic again now.

Grunbag wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:35 pm Fix pending for WE and WH accusation / bloodlust with Bs and SR tactic .

Fix pending for Mara morale stop

Those change will be active after next server boot

moderntimes wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:14 pm Whoever created a WE/WH thinking they were gonna wreck people in an aoe warband anyway?
It looks like a lot of people forgot the rogue archetype implemented in every mmo ever created, aka the solo ganking gameplay.

Tarantoga wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:18 pm

moderntimes wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:14 pm Whoever created a WE/WH thinking they were gonna wreck people in an aoe warband anyway?
It looks like a lot of people forgot the rogue archetype implemented in every mmo ever created, aka the solo ganking gameplay.

oh yes... whoever created a we/wh and wanna participate in wb play. this class is just made for solo play in a game which "isnt made for solo gameplay"

moderntimes wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:14 pm Whoever created a WE/WH thinking they were gonna wreck people in an aoe warband anyway?
It looks like a lot of people forgot the rogue archetype implemented in every mmo ever created, aka the solo ganking gameplay.

moderntimes wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:19 pm

Tarantoga wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:18 pm

moderntimes wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:14 pm Whoever created a WE/WH thinking they were gonna wreck people in an aoe warband anyway?
It looks like a lot of people forgot the rogue archetype implemented in every mmo ever created, aka the solo ganking gameplay.

oh yes... whoever created a we/wh and wanna participate in wb play. this class is just made for solo play in a game which "isnt made for solo gameplay"

You should have switched to melee dps a long time ago then, rogue is not for you.

moderntimes wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:14 pm Whoever created a WE/WH thinking they were gonna wreck people in an aoe warband anyway?
It looks like a lot of people forgot the rogue archetype implemented in every mmo ever created, aka the solo ganking gameplay.

kryss wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:25 pm

moderntimes wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:14 pm Whoever created a WE/WH thinking they were gonna wreck people in an aoe warband anyway?
It looks like a lot of people forgot the rogue archetype implemented in every mmo ever created, aka the solo ganking gameplay.

And this clearly shows you don't have any idea about WH/WE in competitive WB endgame gameplay. WHs don't "wreck" in organized WBs (well, they surely can if played well): their main role is to prevent destro morale bombs. If their setup is right (no, dragon gun is not enough) and they are good, they can make a difference about winning or losing a city instance. Not saying that losing sweeping tactic gonna change everything (there are many others factors to be considered), but surely morale draining will get a lot worse. I will try something different and see if it works too, it will need adjustments in a competitive WB. But for many pug WB leaders, already not keen on taking WHs with them, this will be a factor. Also rogues, kings of vanilla WoW PvP, have a use in 40 ppl raids, so why can't WHs and WEs have one too?