Return of Reckoning

ufthakk wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 11:03 pm with reality u create u mean ?

Yes, that'd be the one.

choppa will never get rampage, making one class unfavorable in city just to elevate another solves nothing and the main problem isn't that bo lost cdr, which made the class pretty one dimensional and boring to play, it's that it didn't get anything back that it lost prior to being given cdr

still, you're a tank. equip a shield, install tether, remember to challenge and m2 and you'll always have a place in a wb. i'd like to see bo get some interesting tools in the next round of balance or, if not, have some old ones returned. there's no use being despondent and it will be kinda nice to not have every automatically assume you're waaagh spec. i'm go back to trying to make wez bigger work

tazdingo wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 11:04 pm choppa will never get rampage, making one class unfavorable in city just to elevate another solves nothing and the main problem isn't that bo lost cdr, which made the class pretty one dimensional and boring to play, it's that it didn't get anything back that it lost prior to being given cdr

still, you're a tank. equip a shield, install tether, remember to challenge and m2 and you'll always have a place in a wb. i'd like to see bo get some interesting tools in the next round of balance or, if not, have some old ones returned. there's no use being despondent and it will be kinda nice to not have every automatically assume you're waaagh spec. i'm go back to trying to make wez bigger work

Slayer and Choppa will have their day under the knife. Who knows what they might end up with afterwards.

wargrimnir wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 11:07 pm

tazdingo wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 11:04 pm choppa will never get rampage, making one class unfavorable in city just to elevate another solves nothing and the main problem isn't that bo lost cdr, which made the class pretty one dimensional and boring to play, it's that it didn't get anything back that it lost prior to being given cdr

still, you're a tank. equip a shield, install tether, remember to challenge and m2 and you'll always have a place in a wb. i'd like to see bo get some interesting tools in the next round of balance or, if not, have some old ones returned. there's no use being despondent and it will be kinda nice to not have every automatically assume you're waaagh spec. i'm go back to trying to make wez bigger work

Slayer and Choppa will have their day under the knife. Who knows what they might end up with afterwards.

A shirt?

Im experimenting with a high strength and weapon skill SnB tank version of the Blork..Ill focus on dropping M3 instead of M4 and bellow.. I swapped Rugged for WAHHHGG tactic, but i still took WAHHHGGG ability.

My plan.. Spam AOE hard with 624 Str and 500+ WS contribute more dmg to the blob and drop M3 with the morale bomb.. While doing all my tanky duties..

Ive actually become MORE tanky as my toughness is now 900 buffed and I lost 40 wounds...

Before this nerf and with WAHHHGG on a 20 second CD I was still usually top tank for DMG in most cities.. Lets amp up the damage and see how it goes.. Pair with a choppah for best results imo.

tazdingo wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 11:04 pm choppa will never get rampage, making one class unfavorable in city just to elevate another solves nothing and the main problem isn't that bo lost cdr, which made the class pretty one dimensional and boring to play, it's that it didn't get anything back that it lost prior to being given cdr

still, you're a tank. equip a shield, install tether, remember to challenge and m2 and you'll always have a place in a wb. i'd like to see bo get some interesting tools in the next round of balance or, if not, have some old ones returned. there's no use being despondent and it will be kinda nice to not have every automatically assume you're waaagh spec. i'm go back to trying to make wez bigger work

Sad thing is they have so many things to work on, unless there is a massive uproar, they will have moved on and forgotten about BO. Or they think it is just fine with out any compensation. This has happened with many other classes as well.

havartii wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 9:44 pm

tazdingo wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 11:04 pm choppa will never get rampage, making one class unfavorable in city just to elevate another solves nothing and the main problem isn't that bo lost cdr, which made the class pretty one dimensional and boring to play, it's that it didn't get anything back that it lost prior to being given cdr

still, you're a tank. equip a shield, install tether, remember to challenge and m2 and you'll always have a place in a wb. i'd like to see bo get some interesting tools in the next round of balance or, if not, have some old ones returned. there's no use being despondent and it will be kinda nice to not have every automatically assume you're waaagh spec. i'm go back to trying to make wez bigger work

Sad thing is they have so many things to work on, unless there is a massive uproar, they will have moved on and forgotten about BO. Or they think it is just fine with out any compensation. This has happened with many other classes as well.

This is exactly the point of this post. They need to realize that this is way too heavy handed. Yes morale pump needed tuning. Wahhgg being mirrored onto SM would have been perfect.

Massive nerfs like this always come with some reworks or buffs in other areas. Instead What they gave us is a pittance and redundant and lacks creativity.

We need to hold them accountable and help them see what we expect as a player base when big huge changes like this happen to a class. We spend sooo much time investing in these characters.

I would have welcomed a rework and something new and fresh and creative and an incentive to make Blorks have a spot.

My only focus now is to AMP damage up. There is really not much else left.

I’ve been warned and I agree I need to tone the anger down, but we need to be heard as a community.

Thus far no one, not even order mains, agrees with what they did to Blork

rebalance chop/slayr, remove chop fasta, return waaagh to BOs, problem solved.

Black orc should now be able to use thc with snb. Also mirror shatter limbs to Not in da face and change big brawlin tactic to increase build up times by 0,5 seconds not by 20 % so this will add 0,5 seconds to even melee skills while having small ae snare on top.

Right in da jibbles should ignore and not cause immunities with the small jump it does, so it can function as interrupt, for 10 seconds you cant interrupt/jump same target.

Change ya' missed me to need block or parry and giving 20% physical dmg reduction to your grp for 8 seconds. Remove undefendable and dmg debuff to target. On top of this Blorc needs single target kb like redirected force, parry or block needed instead of only block (Change for sm asl well)

With these changes i could see ALOT of new roles for black orc=)

I'll never understand what causes people to think a blatant nerf is going to result in significant buffs to offset it if only they gives us a laundry list of things to pick from. It wasn't a mistake or miscalculation, it was a nerf. If anything, the adjustment to the prior tactic is about all the compensation that's going to come from it.