Return of Reckoning

Azagaar wrote:Just when we discussed the cons and more cons of crowdfunding buying of IP, Southpark made an episode about crowdfunding

Just watched it, a very funny episode. The whole episode suits this thread very well, especially the "potato salad project".

Btw, i found another promising project: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/16 ... e-****-tie.

Edit: what if the creators of southpark watch this thread...

didnt Elven say NOT TO DRAW ATTETION TO THE PROJECT

TotalMxO wrote:didnt Elven say NOT TO DRAW ATTETION TO THE PROJECT

Could you please leave tis thread for what it is? The last post was over two weeks ago. :v

I've not managed to read through all 8 pages of posts but in a nutshell... If you check the Warhammer Online Shutdown Dispute Facebook page you'll find that before the shutdown of the official servers we wrote a full proposal explaining the stance of the fans and their wishes and offering a range of options for GW to continue to run WAR. We had (only) a small discourse with GW, who effectively said they were impressed by our passion for the game and would "see what they could do" but chances of continuing WAR would be slim. There are EA licence/trade marked stuff throughout WAR, not just GW IP, so it's a bit of a nightmare legally. Also GW don't want to put their IP in anyone else's hands where they aren't the ones signing off at the end of the chain; as I think someone has already mentioned they are massively protective over IP and have had legal cases over it recently.

The focus for Warhammer has now shifted (like it or not), with progression to "the End Times" retconning WAR and SoC. GW has moved the whole thing on (under most questionable leadership of Tom Kirby who sadly seems only to care about large corporate investors instead of grassroots fans... But that's another story) and unfortunately WAR doesn't fit thematically into the new era.

Clearly anyone at GW could google and find the server, but I wouldn't recommend directly approaching them and making this a visible issue.

I think the best thing to do is help RoR in the ways we can and offer all those that donate their time to the project our positive support and of course be patient- what has been done so far is a great effort and a great job. Thumbs up.

That is the most reasonable thing I've heard so far.

Businesses typically put carrots out there for fans like "see what they could do" , but they won't be giving up this license for fans any time soon as stupid as it may seem. They would rather have the two birds in the bush, than one in the hand. Greed is a powerful modivator.

Best bet is to keep your head low, support the RoR team, and don't push the corporate envelope.

ninja style...

Valayare wrote: The focus for Warhammer has now shifted (like it or not), with progression to "the End Times" retconning WAR and SoC. GW has moved the whole thing on (under most questionable leadership of Tom Kirby who sadly seems only to care about large corporate investors instead of grassroots fans... But that's another story) and unfortunately WAR doesn't fit thematically into the new era.

I wonder what are the chances to see a new solid WAR game based on this new "end times"era?

Good question, but wait, why don't we just start an intellectual property war. That's it, and get sued or forced to shut down the server. That may be the whole solution. And the programmers that have been sweating and toiling over this, who cares right?