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Re: Order: Tank discussion

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:47 am
by Tesq
There is a reason if my dok run a spiritual resistence tactic SM dmg should be nerfed into oblivion as much chosen dmg was and is not like chosen cant provide some nice substan.

Chosen and sm are both the magic offensive dmg tank, chosen dmg was berfed, sm not. Talking about mytich Inequality both magic dmg tank should perform the same way.

Dosent matter if a sm can provide only dmg


Add another dmg man to tbe rest of party dmg make only the ttk lower, insteas encourage counter play you encourageheavy super fast busrt of dmg which leave a very short window of time for act

Re: Order: Tank discussion

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:52 am
by peterthepan3
Tesq wrote:There is a reason if my dok run a spiritual resistence tactic SM dmg should be nerfed into oblivion as much chosen dmg was and is not like chosen cant provide some nice substan.

Chosen and sm are both the magic offensive dmg tank, chosen dmg was berfed, sm not. Talking about mytich Inequality both magic dmg tank should perform the same way.

Dosent matter if a sm can provide only dmg


Add another dmg man to tbe rest of party dmg make only the ttk lower, insteas encourage counter play you encourageheavy super fast busrt of dmg which leave a very short window of time for act

Just conveniently forget the plethora of abilities/utility/group-wide support that the Chosen - aka the staple in any proper group - provides.

SM is a DPS tank, Chosen is not. DPS SM doesn't overperform against equally-competent groups (hence why LoB have no issues vs it).

Re: Order: Tank discussion

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:25 am
by Tesq
Not forgetting, im saying is better for the game have the latter on tank than the firsr regarding group roles.

Basically what gruf said

Re: Order: Tank discussion

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:32 am
by Collateral
Interrupt WoDS? But it has no CD, so how much would that help until the SM pops it again? If he is focused on surviving, he will watch if someone interrupts his WoDS and simply pop it again, no? Don't get me wrong though, I always try to interrupt WoDS, and most of the times I do, but still the fact remains that it has no CD and SM can pop it right back up.

Re: Order: Tank discussion

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:41 am
by Kallah
Collateral wrote:Interrupt WoDS? But it has no CD, so how much would that help until the SM pops it again? If he is focused on surviving, he will watch if someone interrupts his WoDS and simply pop it again, no? Don't get me wrong though, I always try to interrupt WoDS, and most of the times I do, but still the fact remains that it has no CD and SM can pop it right back up.
That's why Peter said to use the 5secs CD increase on the SM.

Btw... asking for SM nerfs because of chosen is just... lol

Re: Order: Tank discussion

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:43 am
by Collateral
Eh, if he has good healers, I'm sure they can cleanse almost instantly, unless you burry it somehow idk. But yes NidF is a solid ability that can mess up a lot of classes.

Re: Order: Tank discussion

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:46 am
by peterthepan3
...including the SM if you manage to coordinate a burst rotation on him with relevant morales (Demolishing, etc). :)

Re: Order: Tank discussion

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:50 am
by szczypacz
Nerf everything into Oblivion, NERF!, Nerf Chinesehero! Buff Kotbs dmg, profit!

Re: Order: Tank discussion

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:53 am
by Collateral
Nerf destro morales into oblivion!





Ok enough of off topic posting for me.

Re: Order: Tank discussion

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:53 am
by Tesq
Well it Was an exemple is not lol, clary if 2 tank are the only ones using magical skill there shold be somekind of balance equal for both.

Appart there isn't a tank should not do those dmg anyway. Assist is a thing till remain a fragment of the party dps. Every one should be able to assist and no tank should do those dmg if as tank it lack in other jobs then fix those. Because support for dmg should not be a 1:1 ratio trade, after a certain point spam better dmg is better.