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Re: Stop this keep trading please

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 1:48 am
by wos
we use to have a defens tik to fix this so u got rewad for holding ur keep and loot rolls to in most cases it was better than a keep take unless it had a wb defending it then in was big nown

Re: Stop this keep trading please

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:41 am
by Mez
Against All Odds was good.

Re: Stop this keep trading please

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:48 am
by Dalgrimar
Thing is, renown rank is kinda useless atm until they add renown spec.
I dont know if AAO gonna change much PvP wise.
All i know is that adding the greenskin/dwarf zone in t2 wasnt very positive for the RvR aspect of the game.
I was looking 2 hours to find a fight

Re: Stop this keep trading please

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:53 am
by Jaycub
Dalgrimar wrote:Thing is, renown rank is kinda useless atm until they add renown spec.
I dont know if AAO gonna change much PvP wise.
All i know is that adding the greenskin/dwarf zone in t2 wasnt very positive for the RvR aspect of the game.
I was looking 2 hours to find a fight
Drawf/GS was fine, just need zone locks to force fights in one or the other. It's too easy (and lucrative) atm to just spam empty keeps with pug warbands for easy experience and influence. Forcing everyone into one zone should fix that for the most part, but you will still have points during the deader times of the server where it will be a ghostown regardless.

Re: Stop this keep trading please

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:03 am
by Chaoself
Shlomo when you said chillwind > wop on advice chat the last day you lost all the credit. join in a guild, make some friends and start joining in groups. this is a MMO, not Skyrim. if you want to play alone, dont blame others to make teams.

Re: Stop this keep trading please

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:10 am
by Jaycub
Some really serious salt there bud.

Regardless what does my stance on a sorc rotation have anything to do with the argument in this thread?

Still waiting on a response to...
You will never change the casual player base in this game, they will continue to solo que as long as that option is available. The burden should not fall upon them, it should fall upon game design.

You are advocating for a system that allows grouped players to beat up on solo players as a norm, as if that is just how it should be. I don't get how you cannot see what is fundamentally wrong with that.

Re: Stop this keep trading please

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:23 am
by Tiggo
no timer please. dont lock out content it was the biggest mistake mythic made ...

Re: Stop this keep trading please

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:54 am
by woot
pls disable t2 empire. force everyone into same zone. pve whores make game suck.

Re: Stop this keep trading please

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 10:08 am
by Azarael
Jaycub wrote:You will never change the casual player base in this game, they will continue to solo que as long as that option is available. The burden should not fall upon them, it should fall upon game design.

You are advocating for a system that allows grouped players to beat up on solo players as a norm, as if that is just how it should be. I don't get how you cannot see what is fundamentally wrong with that.
Exactly.

Once upon a time, I used to be the kind of person who would claim that any issues casual players experienced were their own fault and they should just get good.

Then I saw the results of maintaining that philosophy: the casual players just leave.

There are clear rules when dealing with casual players:

Accept that they are NOT going to get good.

Accept that they want to play for fun.

Accept that if you force them to play the game under your conditions, they CAN and they WILL leave rather than adapt.

Casual players NEVER care about any given game enough to want to suffer in order to play it. Never.

You either accomodate them or you lose them. Those are your two simple choices and that is not going to change.

The only acceptable form of design is that which matches similarly skilled players against each other, i.e. matchmaking. This is why matchmaking exists. Anything else is doomed to fail.

Re: Stop this keep trading please

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:01 am
by Forbiddian
this is disgusting looking for hours a single battle, or keer siege or defending ect pve whores are ruining it

they will notice the fail once they get lvl 26 and rank 30