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Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:04 pm
by TenTonHammer
Penril wrote:Problem: Winning side spawn camps their enemies and dont bother with flags, making SCs last way longer than they should.
Solution: If Flags/murderball are not taken after 2 minutes, SC ends and the team with less kills receives a few emblems, while the team with more kills receives ZERO.
Example: Mourkain Temple. "WearegodsgifttoWAR" premade stomps their enemies in the first fight. However they didnt grab the murder ball and just stayed close to the enemy spawn. After 2 minutes with the murder ball standing there, untouched, the SC ends and WearegodsgifttoWAR receives ZERO rewards, while losing side receives 1 emblem.
May be a little too drastic, so any suggestions are welcome.
drastic but at the same time i feel this is the direction to proceed
i have also noticed that of the late in anoc and temple people dont even pick up the ball
Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:07 pm
by backrow
And why is that? Most people are all set on the soldier emblems, so it makes much more sense to get the kills instead. More chances of drops of good gear and medallions as well. I'd rather have a good fight in the middle than flag hopping any day of the week.
Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:11 pm
by Sulorie
Pugs need no further bandaids. Give incentives to form groups instead and encourage team play.
You don't lose because it was a premade, you lose because you refuse to play as a team and don't learn from your mistakes.
Voicecom is the icing on the cake, the fundamental basics of the game are much more important.
Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:13 pm
by Penril
Gobtar wrote:CCCCCCCC-COMBO BREAKER
what happens when people are fighting over the bauble? would you implement a safe zone for being near the objective?
If it can be done, definitely. Like when people are fighting over a Flag and no side is able to take it (so there must be some kind of detection system there definitely).
Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:19 pm
by magter3001
People making excuses to not group up with players in an MMO... I've officially seen it all now
Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:21 pm
by Disc0nnected1
i have also noticed that of the late in anoc and temple people dont even pick up the ball
If it's close and my side needs just a little push to get over the edge in points I'll go for the ball. If were winning, hell no- that thing hurts!
Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:22 pm
by Disc0nnected1
magter3001 wrote:People making excuses to not group up with players in an MMO... I've officially seen it all now
You either die in a premade, or you live long enough to see yourself become a pug.
Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:25 pm
by vove
talissera wrote:Lol all the Live it was who cares about anybody who stay in resp? If you don't want it - leave and may be smb with skills with carry the groups (= ALT+F4 works fine and did great economy of time.
Every topic about scenarios starts from "I'm alone want to win against smb who pick right classes with strong sinergy".
Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:36 pm
by TenTonHammer
backrow wrote:And why is that? Most people are all set on the soldier emblems, so it makes much more sense to get the kills instead. More chances of drops of good gear and medallions as well. I'd rather have a good fight in the middle than flag hopping any day of the week.
Why would you try and farm people for kills for purple gear in scenarios which has a much lower droprate of purple gear and stuff than oRvR
It is inefficient
Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:37 pm
by Arbich
I don´t think premades are a problem to be dealt with.
I play solo and in a group and most scenarios aren´t spawn-camping.
Even if you play against a premade, the second "group" are often pugs and you can try to kill them.
If you change it to only premade vs premade and pug vs pug, what is with groups of two players (or three or four)?
What could be changed is, that it makes a difference if you loose with 4 points or 400 --> improve the value of emblems. But I don´t know how you could improve the value of emblems :-/