Return of Reckoning

Telen wrote:They tried separating queues in swtor. Within months premade queue was empty. As soon as premades go against each other the worst ones start to quit until there are only a couple left all the others go back to queue syncing solo. Its just human nature.

You need to remember we are not making a premade only que the 2 options are to make a single player pug que OR a single/duo que option for one scenario only.

We are not entertaining the idea of creating premade only, groups or 3,4,5 and 6 will still be in the same scenario que pool.

Both could be great !

Telen wrote:They tried separating queues in swtor. Within months premade queue was empty. As soon as premades go against each other the worst ones start to quit until there are only a couple left all the others go back to queue syncing solo. Its just human nature.

in eq 2 they had same system than here . the qq was intense , eventualy when they release deathtool pvp server they tried to add a single que scs for pugging and keep premades outta general population.

was to late . most people left the server due to the annoyance of it so once prem vs premade started to happen so regular , smaller non meta ones begin to lay off untill just the same people stayed doing it, untill they closed the server due low population, wich was a same . was my first experience with what i see in ror

Ive got to say its really hard to solo q atm, you always face premades and most of the time double premades.

I am sure someone brought this up, but no matter what is done, this game's player base has proven to do one thing reliably, and that is exploit any existing system.

Pug Only, AKA Solo Queue only SC: Exploited by large group of players in comms all queuing at the same time for the same things. Increased chance of being able to "scrape"
together a 6 man. Though it wont be perfect cus you cant guarantee who got in, you will automatically have a greater chance than a truly random solo queue team who is not in comms.

It would be pretty pathetic to do, but I BET this would happen plenty often.

obviously this can be done currently and is done daily by double premade groups queueing at the same time.

I honestly can't think of any decent premade player who would go out of their way to do that.

peterthepan3 wrote:I honestly can't think of any decent premade player who would go out of their way to do that.

peterthepan3 wrote:I honestly can't think of any decent premade player who would go out of their way to do that.

Ever heard of queue queuer, was developed to sync queue 2 6 man groups. 2 separate premades. Of course people will game a system, although I think in RoR it is a bit tougher as it has some behind the scenes criteria for archetype balance, and no user side created channels help combat that.

Akalukz wrote:

peterthepan3 wrote:I honestly can't think of any decent premade player who would go out of their way to do that.

Ever heard of queue queuer, was developed to sync queue 2 6 man groups. 2 separate premades. Of course people will game a system, although I think in RoR it is a bit tougher as it has some behind the scenes criteria for archetype balance, and no user side created channels help combat that.

Yes to maximise your chances against other double premades (even in RoR it tends to happen a lot for Order - without qq'r addon). Tbh I'm kinda opposed to that too, but I can't see serious players bothering to solo queue the same scenario just in the hopes of being able to pug stomp. key word serious players.

peterthepan3 wrote:

Akalukz wrote:

peterthepan3 wrote:I honestly can't think of any decent premade player who would go out of their way to do that.

Ever heard of queue queuer, was developed to sync queue 2 6 man groups. 2 separate premades. Of course people will game a system, although I think in RoR it is a bit tougher as it has some behind the scenes criteria for archetype balance, and no user side created channels help combat that.

Yes to maximise your chances against other double premades (even in RoR it tends to happen a lot for Order - without qq'r addon). Tbh I'm kinda opposed to that too, but I can't see serious players bothering to solo queue the same scenario just in the hopes of being able to pug stomp. key word serious players.

I see what you are saying.