Return of Reckoning

. When a white lion took you to target, you can not escape! let me explain ! grace are multi jump, touts the fate of slowing, are useless. chami of the puddle, slow squig, bump and so on .... useless as a leap he come back on you.
it is simply impossible to escape from it if you're a fabric is death assured because in addition to that, the damage is rather huge. (I speak of course, a white lion played well;-)). I do not say it takes nerve, but can be the amount of goodbye Pa used for fine jumps to have a chance to escape. slightly increase the PA consumption jumps on each balance could be a bit more things, without much benefit this class.
it's just an idea, I expect smart remarks, and concrete advice
Thank you


FR :
quand un lion blanc vous a pris pour cible , il est impossible de s'échapper ! je m'explique ! grâce a sont multi saut, touts les sort de ralentissement , ne servent a rien . la flaque du chami , le ralentissement du squig , les bump et j'en passe ....inutile car en un bond , il reviens sur vous .
il est tout simplement impossible du lui échapper si vous êtes un tissu , c'est la mort assuré car en plus de ça , ces dégâts sont plutôt énormes . (je parle bien sur , d'un lion blanc bien joué ) . je ne dit pas qu'il faut le nerf , mais peut être revoir la quantité de Pa utilisé pour les sauts à fin d'avoir une chance de lui échapper . augmenter légèrement la consommation de PA sur chaque sauts pourrai peut être équilibrer un peut plus les choses , sans trop d'avantager cette classe .
c'est juste une idée , j'attend des remarques intelligentes , et des avis concrets
merci

First of all playing mdps is a suicide path, fight or die.
WL has strong gapclose which other mdps can't have. I think thats a good deal cause he is easy to focus. He obviously can't jump away.
For the escape you already have 1. Brain 2. Legs 3. Detaunt.
Try to use it wisely.
Btw this is a 1v1 issue, so don't forget this is no 1v1 balance in WHO
Then you always can w8 t4 when wl will become completely useless

ok, but when I see a wl in which sc through a multi jump that never stops coming to kill minimum 15/20 .it only the Detaunt to delay the hour of death. Brain and brain efficient because it can makes the jump .most a lion that made big damage! increase the cost of PA seems to be an interesting solution. wait T4 ok , but for the moment , it is a rather advantaged class .

Healers and guard are you friend in orgaized group play wl is fine as is pounce since WL will be leaping out of guard range

I dont mean to be crass, but I kind of leap for joy when I see a WL come flying at me in a SC...

I KNOW he will not have guard. I KNOW he wont get heals. I KNOW the WL has 0 defensive abilities outside of a 5 sec Detaunt and charge/flee. Even in a chaotic Pug situation, I pretty much know a pouncing lion is going to die a bloody and messy death. The only time pounce is useful is when your chasing down a kiting foe or closing the gap on a wounded antelope who has strayed too far from the herd

handority wrote:I KNOW he wont get heals.

Well, beside being prehotted, he WILL get his heals. Heal range (150ft) > 2 * Pounce range (65ft). So he can actually pounce twice at max range and still get heals.

handority wrote:I KNOW the WL has 0 defensive abilities outside of a 5 sec Detaunt and charge/flee.

Oh, you seem to forget another no-CD skill, which is called Pounce, which allows you to quickly withdrawn or save your ass when kicked to lava.

Except for those small details, I really do like your recipe for success - I'm buying!

ropuch

WL also has the ability to perma snare and kite/flee a target

handority wrote:I dont mean to be crass, but I kind of leap for joy when I see a WL come flying at me in a SC...

I KNOW he will not have guard. I KNOW he wont get heals. I KNOW the WL has 0 defensive abilities outside of a 5 sec Detaunt and charge/flee. Even in a chaotic Pug situation, I pretty much know a pouncing lion is going to die a bloody and messy death. The only time pounce is useful is when your chasing down a kiting foe or closing the gap on a wounded antelope who has strayed too far from the herd

I agree with this ive killed some in 3 gcd cause they where foolish enough to use pounce due to over extend.

Good WLs know how pounce make them vulnerable if they overextend and always check for a tank or some enemy melee in order to come back to their teamates with the same speed they charged. Mobility can give u lot of survavibility, yet no escape situation happen to every squiscie (esp melee) vs coordinated wbs.
Pounce was not mean to make them frontline tanks xD

If you got problems with WLs, just roll a tank. Or just reroll to Order.