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What's up with SC kills after the patch?

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:10 pm
by Boursk
I see some groups getting like 30 kills which people in other groups are getting like 5 on the same side which seems pretty shitty compared to before the recent patch, where everyone was getting equal amount of kills because everyones effort in a scenario counted as long as you were close enough to the fighting area.

I feel like this needs to change back to the last model in terms of having equal rewards for everyone =/

Re: What's up with SC kills after the patch?

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:12 pm
by Tiggo
its a side effect of group fixes, not intended and they will adjust other aspects (kill quest etc.) to take this into account according to aza. (looks like they cant change that unless going back to the broken group/wb mechanics before patch, so i guess the end justifies the means).

Re: What's up with SC kills after the patch?

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:19 pm
by Boursk
Tiggo wrote:its a side effect of group fixes, not intended and they will adjust other aspects (kill quest etc.) to take this into account according to aza. (looks like they cant change that unless going back to the broken group/wb mechanics before patch, so i guess the end justifies the means).
God thats really dumb, what's the incentive then for people to play scenarios other than to get their emblems for their SC equipment when they're not even getting REMOTELY the same amount of renown?

This is a huge problem =/

Re: What's up with SC kills after the patch?

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:22 pm
by Tiggo
well one could still argue: if you dont kill it or your group why would you get the renown ;)

Re: What's up with SC kills after the patch?

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:24 pm
by Druin
Boursk wrote:
Tiggo wrote:its a side effect of group fixes, not intended and they will adjust other aspects (kill quest etc.) to take this into account according to aza. (looks like they cant change that unless going back to the broken group/wb mechanics before patch, so i guess the end justifies the means).
God thats really dumb, what's the incentive then for people to play scenarios other than to get their emblems for their SC equipment when they're not even getting REMOTELY the same amount of renown?

This is a huge problem =/

You can get more renown now, your group just has to get the kills.

Re: What's up with SC kills after the patch?

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:26 pm
by Scrilian
I have to ask if its possible with new warband/group system to implement the correct drop from t1 lairs? Growing a bit mad and frustrated with the amount of destro weapons dropped.

Re: What's up with SC kills after the patch?

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:30 pm
by Azarael
Boursk wrote:
Tiggo wrote:its a side effect of group fixes, not intended and they will adjust other aspects (kill quest etc.) to take this into account according to aza. (looks like they cant change that unless going back to the broken group/wb mechanics before patch, so i guess the end justifies the means).
God thats really dumb, what's the incentive then for people to play scenarios other than to get their emblems for their SC equipment when they're not even getting REMOTELY the same amount of renown?

This is a huge problem =/
Wow.

Next time I'll just let you rot in bugged warbands. Have it.

And now that I think about it, there is nothing to change xp/renown wise. The same rules as ORvR are used - your group gets contribution depending on the damage it did to the target. The only thing you have any room to complain about is how kill credit for quests is handled.

Re: What's up with SC kills after the patch?

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:32 pm
by Boursk
Druin wrote:
Boursk wrote:
Tiggo wrote:its a side effect of group fixes, not intended and they will adjust other aspects (kill quest etc.) to take this into account according to aza. (looks like they cant change that unless going back to the broken group/wb mechanics before patch, so i guess the end justifies the means).
God thats really dumb, what's the incentive then for people to play scenarios other than to get their emblems for their SC equipment when they're not even getting REMOTELY the same amount of renown?

This is a huge problem =/

You can get more renown now, your group just has to get the kills.
That's just my point though, I'm in premades usually who are getting alot of kills but at the same time I can feel like I'm not only fighting for myself but also for the sake of the other PUG players in the scenario who MAY or MAY NOT be new to the game - And in which case they are new then I just feel bad for them

How does this help and encourage new players to do scenarios and feel like they're accomplishing something?

You HAVE to understand that I am speaking on behalf of the new players to this game...

Re: What's up with SC kills after the patch?

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:39 pm
by Scrilian
Azarael wrote: Next time I'll just let you rot in bugged warbands. Have it.
Damn it, Boursk!
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Re: What's up with SC kills after the patch?

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:43 pm
by Boursk
Scrilian wrote:
Azarael wrote: Next time I'll just let you rot in bugged warbands. Have it.
Damn it, Boursk!
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Did you even read my post above this one? =_=