Return of Reckoning

Hi everybody !

To begin, thank to all RoR team for the work you have done, thank to have given a new life to this fantastic game I was so hoping to play when its release until the final closure of the official servers, inevitably putting an end to all my dreams before I've been able to explore the old world, the fault to my computer which was a real antiquity at this time. ^^

I'm comin here to suggest and evalue with you the possibility of introduce playable female marauders and, idealy, choosens.

I was really disconcerted by the decision of the AoR developers to restrict the choice of female characters to only spellcasters, while Imperial can choose any class without gender restriction. For me it was a slightly bitter conclusion the first time I launched the game.

But it's mainly an absolutely absurd non-sens overlooked the lore of Warhammer, which clearly states that everyone in the chaos hordes can chooses the way that suits him best to serve the gods, only the acts can define the place of a man or woman in the clan, allowing anyone to take up arms and aspire to the favors of the gods in the heart of battles or of plunging into the mysteries of chaos magic contrary to the imperials which more rigid and paternalistic on the matter, leaving women going into battle has rare exceptions. Particulary when they belong to a religious order or a magic college, as mercenaries or as a last resort to defend a city (and in these cases I think they should have some hardness to be respected by their male counterparts)..

I know the lore in Age of Reckoning is far from being in perfect agreement with that of Battles, but it's not a valuable reason at my opinion, and the argument (I could not check his authenticity) claiming the developpers did'nt want to make female modeles for these careers because GW never release any figurine of chaotic women warriors is absolutely inconsistent, since this is also the case with Imperial.

So the real question isn't the legitimacy of such introduction in game, but the technic possibility of making it. There are already some animations and combat postures for models of chaotic women, but not enough I suppose to represent all the skills of the said classes.
Would it be possible to simply "transfer" the poses and animations of male models ? Or maybe it's just the same as the women empire knight ?
Regarding armor, how to adjust ?
And finally, except me, they would be people interested by the idea of playing a brutal female marauder or choosen ?

Thank you for reading, and please forgive my doubtful English.

they aren't there in lore i believe

There are a few female Chosen, though i have never seen female Marauders. Anyway, the point is moot since they probably lack the appropiate meshes/animations and such.

Penril wrote:There are a few female Chosen, though i have never seen female Marauders. Anyway, the point is moot since they probably lack the appropiate meshes/animations and such.

They could always just superimpose a female head over the Chosen's/Marauder's body like what D&D did during "The Walk of Atonement"



*Joking aside- lore aside- I'm pretty sure they would need a patcher to do that, which they haven't been able to do yet.

This would mean we would have to design different Armor pieces for the female versions. And I don't think a female head ontop of a Male body would look that great... But maye some ppl might be into it. Different Strokes for different folks, i guess.

If someone can explain me how I can find the meshes of the AoR characters and objects ? I have a few knowing in 3d modelisation, maybe I'm able to find a solution by trying to adapt some models by myself in first ?

And if you are doubting the existence of female warriors in the chaos hordes, you can see Valkia the concubine of Khorne in figurine as exemple, or read some stuff like "Felix and Gotrek" novels, "Malus Darkblade", the "Liber Chaotica" or refer to the "Tome of Corruption" WRP rules to know more about the north tribes life, to convince you of the evidente existence of warrioress in Warhammer for the same reason as warriors.

Female Chosen make much more sense (lorewise) than, for example, male Sorcerers.

I'd be way more motivated to play one if it was a chick... Really hate playing hulking gorilla-like creature-of-the-darkness-looking folks.

Beasthen wrote: I was really disconcerted by the decision of the AoR developers to restrict the choice of female characters to only spellcasters, while Imperial can choose any class without gender restriction.

Impossible lore wise. Chosen are the best of Chaos Warriors. And Chaos Warrior is the most skilled and fierce warrior of his tribe. So yeah those guys are pretty rare. There are possibly some women among them, but thats more of an exception then a rule.
Concerning women as empire classes. Empire just presses everyone in to service because ****'s ****. For example they don't do that in Bretonnia.

Beasthen wrote: But it's mainly an absolutely absurd non-sens overlooked the lore of Warhammer, which clearly states that everyone in the chaos hordes can chooses the way that suits him best to serve the gods

RoR doesn't have chaos hordes. Instead we have Raven Host as a playable faction that is dedicated to Tzeentch. Tzeentch likes planning and optimizing things,so he will get biggest guys to sword swinging and women to spellcasting. For example in Slaaneshs army you could have as many women Chosen as you like.

Beasthen wrote: only the acts can define the place of a man or woman in the clan,

Strength is the only measure of a man.

Beasthen wrote: imperials which more rigid and paternalistic on the matter, leaving women going into battle has rare exceptions. Particulary when they belong to a religious order or a magic college

Characters in this game are not exactly random pikemen or crossbowmen. All 4 empire characters are exactly members of religious orders or a magic college.

Beasthen wrote: and the argument (I could not check his authenticity) claiming the developpers did'nt want to make female modeles for these careers because GW never release any figurine of chaotic women warriors is absolutely inconsistent, since this is also the case with Imperial.

I doubt original devs even had a say on this. License belongs to GW so they just couldn't pull content straight out of their asses.

Beasthen wrote: but the technic possibility of making it. There are already some animations and combat postures for models of chaotic women, but not enough I suppose to represent all the skills of the said classes.

Devs cant change clientside of the game. And even if they could do some tricks with models, it would be extremely hacky and buggy.

I guess both of those classes don't have a female model because it would be too tricky to pull off. You see, whole idea of Raven Hosts Chosen and Marauders is their otherworldliness. They tower over ordinary human and look very scary and a lot stronger. Female model would be a lot smaller and probably would have to be another class. And copying classes isn't really great, that's why we have Witch Elfs in the game and no Dark Elf Assassins.