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Interaction of movement tick abilities

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:32 pm
by Azarael
I'm interested in how the official server handled the following:

- Dismounting players
- Proccing direct damage effects
- Detaunt

For the following skills:

- Sudden Accusation/Enfeebling Strike
- Touch of Palsy / Punishing Blow
- Gork Sez Stop

At the moment, each of these abilities inflicts direct damage, so the following apply:

- Checks dismount chance every tick.
- Procs all direct damage effects.
- Breaks detaunt on tick.

It is stated within this report that SA/ES were flagged as direct damage and should be consistent with the above.

Re: Interaction of movement tick abilities

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:00 pm
by roadkillrobin
I'm pretty sure they were handled as procs themself. And procs couldn't proc another proc.
AFAIK they would dissmount you, wouldn't proc DD effects and wouldn't break detaunt

Re: Interaction of movement tick abilities

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:17 am
by Eathisword
roadkillrobin wrote:I'm pretty sure they were handled as procs themself. And procs couldn't proc another proc.
AFAIK they would dissmount you, wouldn't proc DD effects and wouldn't break detaunt
I think he's right.

Looking at live footage, Punishing blow couldn't crit. Couldn't be blocked or parried after it was applied, although the initial blow could be. So, sounds more consistent with something like a proc, than DD.

Re: Interaction of movement tick abilities

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:18 am
by Annaise16
I think they worked as dd at launch because I have a vague memory that they could crit. But they were quickly changed to work like proc type damage as described above with only the initial hit counting as a dd attack - being defendable, triggering procs, etc. The ensuing ticks were undefendable, didn't trigger procs (Enfeebling Strike ticks never triggered WE's kisses or Witchbrew), etc.

I don't remember if the ticks could dismount a target or how they worked with detaunt.

Re: Interaction of movement tick abilities

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:31 am
by magter3001
I'm pretty sure Gork Sez Stop didn't dismount people with it's damage as it's a morale ability. Sudden Accusation I believe did dismount though at least with the initial hit (when the ability gets applied) Dunno about touch of palsy.

In terms of procs, dunno.

Dunno what you mean by detaunt.

Re: Interaction of movement tick abilities

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:39 am
by Azarael
Thanks, all. Will change handler to proc damage.

Re: Interaction of movement tick abilities

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:15 am
by Tesq
i belive they did not count for detaunt appart the initial hit, neither they dismount ppl appart the initial hit if they had a direct damage hit when the skill got used.

Re: Interaction of movement tick abilities

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:28 am
by Razielhell
Also absorb would protect you from dismounting which makes sense.
On RoR you get dismounted.

Re: Interaction of movement tick abilities

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:00 pm
by Tesq
i alredy reported about absorb but got no support for that fix