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End Game PVP

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:42 pm
by ronjn
Good day everyone,

I used to play this game on release and am quite excited about its possible return.
I have been playing with a friend for about a week and really enjoying it until we reached sieging tier...

I really hope there is a plan in place to balance the Endgame since it could very well kill the game much like it did back on original launch.

The biggest problem is that Zerg wins, you can do anything against sheer numbers and typically Order is outnumbered, let's face it its more fun to be chaos for the most part.

So what might happen is that chaos will win by zerg get the gear and be too powerful to win against until they get bored lol.
We are still rewarding the assault on empty keeps unless I am wrong, much like the original game release.

I still really enjoy scenarios and PVE, even if LOS is broken ATM.

Is there a plan in place to maybe balance out Zerging ? maybe instance some RVR areas ? Buffing the smaller force a bit while defending a keep ?

I think that by addressing some balancing issues this project has a better chance at succeeding.

Re: End Game PVP

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:48 pm
by megadeath
ronjn wrote:Good day everyone,
The biggest problem is that Zerg wins, you can do anything against sheer numbers and typically Order is outnumbered, let's face it its more fun to be chaos for the most part.
I'm not sure we are playing on the same server.

Re: End Game PVP

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:25 pm
by ronjn
There is only one server is there not for return of reckoning?

Re: End Game PVP

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:36 pm
by megadeath
Yes, but the RoR I'm playing on i find myself constantly outnumbered by order. Just today we were fighting in Eataine with 60 aao. And after getting wiped there we switched immediately to Praag and found ourselfs with 120 aao.

Re: End Game PVP

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:19 am
by Thelen
For the last month+ Order has been the outnumbering faction quite heavily. Locking most of the pairings each day. I can only speak for EU and NA Primetime hours though.

Secondly, there is almost no "gear gap" at the moment. The best gear is Annihilator and Mercenary gear (both can be acquired in a reasonable time-frame regardless of who is zerging/who is not). So gear should not be an excuse to why one side is winning.
We are still rewarding the assault on empty keeps unless I am wrong
You are, there are no loot rolls for undefended keeps.

The devs, IMO, have done a really great job helping the underdog faction. Both with Diminishing Returns debuff, no rewards for flips if you didn't participate (screw Xrealmers) and having other small tweaks. There are some things still needed of course (manageable keep lords for low-pop timezones being one), but they are working at a good pace and it'll all get sorted in due time.

Re: End Game PVP

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:44 am
by Akilinus
Im pretty sure that T4 has been about Order 55%-45% Destro

Re: End Game PVP

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:01 am
by drmordread
Destro zerged almost non stop since t4 came out. Now order has been zerging for the last 3 weeks, maybe 4. Basically the majority of the players on this server play both sides. there are whole guilds that will switch faction for a period of time.

No worries my dear destro friends .... you will go back to zerging in a week and it will last for a good 6 months or so. The month or two order zerg will not bother you long.

Re: End Game PVP

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:13 am
by Thelen
drmordread wrote:Destro zerged almost non stop since t4 came out. Now order has been zerging for the last 3 weeks, maybe 4. Basically the majority of the players on this server play both sides. there are whole guilds that will switch faction for a period of time.

No worries my dear destro friends .... you will go back to zerging in a week and it will last for a good 6 months or so. The month or two order zerg will not bother you long.
I hope I didn't come off as complaining. I prefer the underdog side. Zerging is the most boring.

Re: End Game PVP

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:39 am
by ronjn
Thank you all for the information!

I did not mean to just point out one specific side, but in general, Zerging is boring and wondered if things were in place since I do remember this wrecking the Original release and I really do love Warhammer online.

Looking forward to fully experiencing the RVR. It is nice to see an active community.

Re: End Game PVP

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:39 am
by Kali14
Order zerg all the time. Destro wipe every day, they can only sit in keep and waiting for us. Good there is no bags for keep defeance for them. Yesterday they won 1 battle during 8 hours when their organized WB attacked us when we was AFK.