Return of Reckoning

Hi everybody,i'm planning on leveling my first range dps (in every mmo i've played i loved the kiting aspects of class,so i rolled mostly ranged classes who can kite)....what's the best kiting class in Order faction?Engi,BW or SW?

SW.

In my opinion: low tier sw, high tier bw. Engi is a range class, but has no real kiting abilities.

When CC will be implemented we can start the kiting for real. I agree that SW is alot of fun but kiting as a group is glorious

engi needs turrets, bw needs healing, sw needs nothing.

Luth wrote:In my opinion: low tier sw, high tier bw. Engi is a range class, but has no real kiting abilities.

Can you outdo the selfdamage with gear or RR-Regen?

Idrinth wrote:

Luth wrote:In my opinion: low tier sw, high tier bw. Engi is a range class, but has no real kiting abilities.

Can you outdo the selfdamage with gear or RR-Regen?

Only for 1on1 against less skilled players with help of trinkets, pocket items, potions and top-end gear a sorc/bw can be considered "good".
When you keep DM/CB low, then the self-damage is healable with high regen but the base-dmg of those classes is very low, so they need 100 DM/CB to deal serious damage. By speccing defensively you will lose even more damage.

I will say, you can kite with them, when in DoT spec, but you need a group. All other RDPS are different and good for solo play.

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Engi/Magus suffered from the last CC-patch, which reduced almost all CC timers but nevertheless, they are quite good solo and ofc in kiting.
SW/SH are both strong in kiting, nothing to add here.
SHAM/AM DPS spec are strong in kiting as well. Selfheal makes them more durable.


The kiting group of my dreams has following classes.
HEAL RP
BW
DPS AM
DPS AM
SW
SW / ENGI(was better before the "CC-Fix")

Idrinth wrote:

Luth wrote:In my opinion: low tier sw, high tier bw. Engi is a range class, but has no real kiting abilities.

Can you outdo the selfdamage with gear or RR-Regen?

No, i could kill everyone (except shamans...) in T3 1vs1 situations with my bw on the original server. I didn't have any special hp-regen stuff, just max. damage. I think it was the lack of players with "trivial blows", that made it easy.
My favourite enemy in T3 was a s/b chosen, running around alone most the time to gank people. I remember that this fights took no longer than a few seconds.

Imo these things make the bw the superior kiting class on the orderside in late game:
- the knockdown is an instant cast (sw is a 1 second buildup cast)
- the snare (withering heat) can be cast on move + is instant. If you run around while casting it, just the first tick of the channeling is used (usually ~1k damage on targets in T3) and a 3 second snare is applied.

Well, when you're solo killed by a single BW/SORC, then you are just bad.
When you kite down a tank, the tank made a lot mistakes to begin with. You can only kite a tank, when they let it happen. Running into a RDPS on an open field is a bad idea. ^^
No use of potions, certain "wrong" renown skills and builds make it impossible to fight kiters.
A gimped build will never beat a char made for solo play.
Resolute Defense, Cleansing Wind, Trivial Blows (Movement Speed Talismans), at least 2 different heal potions other stuff like that gives a huge advantage. When your enemy doesn't have it, you will even beat them with the worst solo class ingame.

Don't get me wrong, I did the same back in time but it wasn't me, my enemies made it possible.

HEAL RP
BW
DPS AM
DPS AM
SW
SW / ENGI(was better before the "CC-Fix")

sure .....easy with 2 dedicated ranged kd only for order realm eh ?